4 week notice period?

[psychocandy]

Legally yes but it never goes legal. You are just sitting on your laurels waiting for the inevitable tulip storm that is approaching. IMO you can't call the agent names for ignoring you when stick something in and then ignore it as well.

NLUK. You are missing the main point. To cut it down to a basic level:-

1) I can ask for an amendment, agent can yes or no.
2) If agent says no, I can then say yes or no.

Thats generally how negotiations work in a civilised society. One party comes up with something, the other party agrees or doesnt, if they do they do business.
But this is not what has happened here. How this went was:-

1) I ask for an amendment, agent ignores me and hides.
2) Agent plays a game knowing if he hides for long enough he wont have to negotiate.

I know agent hasn't even gone to the client with this request. He was confident in his ability to hide from me long enough to mean the contract got accepted by me turning up on site. Possibly didn't expect me to send a contract to him but know I guess hes confident to be able to blag his way out of that one.
Risky strategy maybe but he knows if it all goes tits up, he can blag his way out of it with the client and pass the blame onto me somehow.

And you dont think this is taking the piss somewhat?

Yes I could have walked away. But, all I ask is for some integrity from the agent and not stupid games and a straight answer.

[eek]

And you dont think this is taking the piss somewhat?

Yes I could have walked away. But, all I ask is for some integrity from the agent and not stupid games and a straight answer.

No, personally it sounds like the agent has got the measure of you and is treating you with the respect you deserve...

[northernladuk]

Link?

http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...debt-them.html

[northernladuk]

NLUK. You are missing the main point. To cut it down to a basic level:-

1) I can ask for an amendment, agent can yes or no.
2) If agent says no, I can then say yes or no.

Thats generally how negotiations work in a civilised society. One party comes up with something, the other party agrees or doesnt, if they do they do business.
But this is not what has happened here. How this went was:-

1) I ask for an amendment, agent ignores me and hides.
2) Agent plays a game knowing if he hides for long enough he wont have to negotiate.

I know agent hasn't even gone to the client with this request. He was confident in his ability to hide from me long enough to mean the contract got accepted by me turning up on site. Possibly didn't expect me to send a contract to him but know I guess hes confident to be able to blag his way out of that one.
Risky strategy maybe but he knows if it all goes tits up, he can blag his way out of it with the client and pass the blame onto me somehow.

And you dont think this is taking the piss somewhat?

Yes I could have walked away. But, all I ask is for some integrity from the agent and not stupid games and a straight answer.

But I still don't see any reason for you to end up starting a gig with no contract agreed. It was messy, it might not have been the most professional way of dealing with it, it might have been taking the piss somewhat but still no reason for you to start without a contract. There was clearly no negotiation to be had. You either sign or walk. In the end you did neither.

[psychocandy]

But I still don't see any reason for you to end up starting a gig with no contract agreed. It was messy, it might not have been the most professional way of dealing with it, it might have been taking the piss somewhat but still no reason for you to start without a contract. There was clearly no negotiation to be had. You either sign or walk. In the end you did neither.

Yeh agreed. But like you said, it was sign or walk. In hindsight, walk would have been better. We live and learn.

But I think even then, at that late stage, agent would have spun it that whatever way I would have ended up looking bad in the clients eyes.

[Taita]

Yeh agreed. But like you said, it was sign or walk. In hindsight, walk would have been better. We live and learn.

But I think even then, at that late stage, agent would have spun it that whatever way I would have ended up looking bad in the clients eyes.

"We live and learn." ????? Seems to me you have been in similar spots time and time again so what about the 'learning' bit?

[eek]

"We live and learn." ????? Seems to me you have been in similar spots time and time again so what about the 'learning' bit?

I think PC works on the basis of 20th time lucky....