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    #11
    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-63627801

    Former environment secretary George Eustice has savaged the UK's free trade deal with Australia and criticised Liz Truss's role in negotiating it.

    Mr Eustice, who helped secure the agreement, told a Commons debate that it was "not actually a very good deal for the UK".

    It was the first post-Brexit deal negotiated from scratch.

    Mr Eustice told the Commons that now he is on the backbenches he "no longer has to put such a positive gloss on what was agreed".

    Overall the UK "gave away far too much for far too little in return", he told MPs.

    Oh Dear!
    First Law of Contracting: Only the strong survive

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      #12
      in grey are the countries that hold all the cards

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        #13
        Originally posted by darmstadt View Post

        I think that you'll find that the UK hasn't had a working, sensible and functioning government since the referendum. Do you think uch of this tulip would have happened if that hadn't occurred? Due a bunch of racists and neo-facsists causing the Tories to run scared about losing their position in government, they decide to screw up the country instead. Ever since then the Tories have put party and politics before the country...
        you think the UK had a sensible and functioning government before the referendum?

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          #14
          Originally posted by _V_ View Post
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          Note the poor, backward looking countries that are not part of any trade bloc (in grey)

          but that isn't the point of brexit... the point is that "economic integration" should not become MORE than economic integration whereby Europe effectively becomes the United States of Europe, government by a quasi supra-national governing body, which is, to all intents and purposes... UNELECTED! This was the 'rai·son d'être' for brexit.

          If 27 'commissioners' set an agenda for the EU parliament that is then voted on by a bunch of MEP's that hardly anybody voted for, and who, even then, cannot change that agenda, is that really democratic?
          Last edited by hgllgh; 28 November 2022, 10:04.

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            #15
            Originally posted by hgllgh View Post

            but that isn't the point of brexit... the point is that "economic integration" should not become MORE than economic integration whereby Europe effectively becomes the United States of Europe, government by a quasi supra-national governing body, which is, to all intents and purposes... UNELECTED! This was the 'rai·son d'être' for brexit.
            "To all intents and purposes... unelected"
            And how does that differ from the UK House of Lords, UK Monarchy, UK Civil Service, and the current UK Government?

            The people who voted for Brexit seem keen to keep changing the reason for why they voted.
            It's like they are the biggest exponents of cancel culture out there.
            …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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              #16
              Originally posted by WTFH View Post

              "To all intents and purposes... unelected"
              And how does that differ from the UK House of Lords, UK Monarchy, UK Civil Service, and the current UK Government?
              agreed. "100%" with you on that.

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