How Easy for GB to Rejoin

[Paddy]

My parents voted for a common market and it morphed into a superstate over the next 50 years. I & they never voted for the change.

Governments may have collaborated without asking the people but as can be seen by actions in previous wars that did not have wholehearted support of the people.

How could the EU be called a superstrate? Furthermore, in 1988 Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher made a speech in favour of barrier-free access to the European single market. No doubt your parents voted Tory.

You really show how much of a numpty you really are.

[malvolio]

How could the EU be called a superstrate? Furthermore, in 1988 Prime Minister Margaret Thatcher made a speech in favour of barrier-free access to the European single market. No doubt your parents voted Tory.

You really show how much of a numpty you really are.

Nobody is arguing the single market was a bad idea. Equally nobody is supporting the idea of tying our currency to the Mark (which is what the Euro actually is). nor for being tied to a raft of rules and regulations that in many cases don't actually meet the standards the UK had already set. Nobody is arguing about free movement between countries being a bad thing - after all most of our immigration problems are from non-EU countries. Nobody is supporting the EU rules regarding Northern Ireland where goods being exported to the rest of the UK are treated the same as the 4% of goods going in that are to be re-exported to Eire because the EU bureaucracy pretends it can't cope with the difference..

But we bow to your greater knowledge of being a numpty.

[WTFH]

But we bow to your greater knowledge of being a numpty.

You're the numpty who thinks Tony Blair signed the Maastricht treaty.

[darmstadt]

Nobody is arguing the single market was a bad idea. Equally nobody is supporting the idea of tying our currency to the Mark (which is what the Euro actually is). nor for being tied to a raft of rules and regulations that in many cases don't actually meet the standards the UK had already set. Nobody is arguing about free movement between countries being a bad thing - after all most of our immigration problems are from non-EU countries. Nobody is supporting the EU rules regarding Northern Ireland where goods being exported to the rest of the UK are treated the same as the 4% of goods going in that are to be re-exported to Eire because the EU bureaucracy pretends it can't cope with the difference..

But we bow to your greater knowledge of being a numpty.

Businesses in NI are quite happy with the protocol apart from the bigots and the Brexiters: https://www.politico.eu/article/irel...in-belfast-uk/

[malvolio]

You're the numpty who thinks Tony Blair signed the Maastricht treaty.

OK, so if we're discussing reality and numpties...

Thatcher signed Maastricht, looking to tighten the free trade association conditions and simplify business dealings (but with exceptions like not joining Schengen, for example).

Blair, without a plebiscite, committed the UK to creating the EU federated state 2006 by signing us up to the revised EU constitution. That was what did the damage to our sovereignty.

HTH. BIDI

[Paddy]

OK, so if we're discussing reality and numpties...

Thatcher signed Maastricht, looking to tighten the free trade association conditions and simplify business dealings (but with exceptions like not joining Schengen, for example).

Blair, without a plebiscite, committed the UK to creating the EU federated state 2006 by signing us up to the revised EU constitution. That was what did the damage to our sovereignty.

HTH. BIDI

How did it do damage to our sovereignty. Can you name some specifics?

[WTFH]

OK, so if we're discussing reality and numpties...

Thatcher signed Maastricht, looking to tighten the free trade association conditions and simplify business dealings (but with exceptions like not joining Schengen, for example).

Blair, without a plebiscite, committed the UK to creating the EU federated state 2006 by signing us up to the revised EU constitution. That was what did the damage to our sovereignty.

HTH. BIDI

You really need to read your own posts.

They won't help, but I know that.

... there was a step change in the UK's relationship with the EU at Maastricht. Which was done without a referendum, extensive debate (what there was, I seem to remember, was largely against signing) or even much of a mandate. A perfect example of Labour's core philosophy that only the government knows what is best for its electorate.

Only if you choose to ignore somewhat uncomfortable fact that it was the unilateral signing of the Maastricht treaty by Blair

We didn't have a referendum on the SEA or on the MT, and you thought that was a disgrace that Labour did this. Now that you are told it wasn't Labour, you're saying that they were really minor.

You've suckled at the Tory teat too long.

[malvolio]

Like shouting down a well, isn't it.

OK, so you're wrong in the key events of the EU membership saga and their impacts, but they still happened. We're also out of the EU now, or hadn't you noticed, and that is not going to be reversed, especially since the EU's overall economy is slowly tanking. So I really don't understand your continuing arguing about it. So I'll stop trying to educate you.

[WTFH]

Like shouting down a well, isn't it.

OK, so you're wrong in the key events of the EU membership saga and their impacts, but they still happened. We're also out of the EU now, or hadn't you noticed, and that is not going to be reversed, especially since the EU's overall economy is slowly tanking. So I really don't understand your continuing arguing about it. So I'll stop trying to educate you.

You're the one joining a thread about how easy would it be to rejoin.

As for the economy tanking, the only part of the UK that isn't tanking big time is Northern Ireland, which is why Brexiteers want to punish them. How dare they do well because they can trade with the EU!

[malvolio]

You're the one joining a thread about how easy would it be to rejoin.

As for the economy tanking, the only part of the UK that isn't tanking big time is Northern Ireland, which is why Brexiteers want to punish them. How dare they do well because they can trade with the EU!

Like I said, shouting down a well. Go talk to yourself for a while, then you might get answers you like.