Boris gets the check book out.

[WTFH]

You're an advocate of ethnic cleansing then?

Isn’t that what National Farage/Nigel Front, the EDL and their ilk want in England - sending home non-natives?

[Zigenare]

Isn’t that what National Farage/Nigel Front, the EDL and their ilk want in England - sending home non-natives?

Is it?

[Lance]

What if the Freemasons manipulate the isotopes?

long half-life = not very radioactive so no problem

[Bean]

It’s both not true, and I don’t know.

Not true, because you can’t make a blanket statement like “x is better than the EU”, simply because “the EU” only sets minimum standards, and it’s up to individual member states to set their own that should be equal or higher. For example, Ireland is also in the EU and also uses the same plugs. “The EU” doesn’t have plugs, individual member states do.

“I don’t know” because I’m not an electricity expert but this site appears to indicate that standard two-pin plugs common across other countries are also grounded. So why are 3-pins better? (Genuine question, not trolling)

Plug & socket types - World Standards

The 3rd pin at the top, prevents the live connections from being accessible to say, a child with a fork.

In member states that have not been coerced into using this safer system, the risk of electrocution is greater.

This is why some posters may allude to 'the EU', as it seems like a dereliction of duty to not have a safer minimum standard, no?

I wonder if it's anything to do with the massive cost of replacing every plug in the major economies of Europe (-UK) and instead they think it's better than more people than necessary are electrocuted but they save some euros...

Why is it that Ireland have the 3 pin?
Perhaps they saw the UK saving lives and thought whale oil beef hooked, that's a clever idea, let's nick it...

[meridian]

The 3rd pin at the top, prevents the live connections from being accessible to say, a child with a fork.

In member states that have not been coerced into using this safer system, the risk of electrocution is greater.

This is why some posters may allude to 'the EU', as it seems like a dereliction of duty to not have a safer minimum standard, no?

I wonder if it's anything to do with the massive cost of replacing every plug in the major economies of Europe (-UK) and instead they think it's better than more people than necessary are electrocuted but they save some euros...

Why is it that Ireland have the 3 pin?
Perhaps they saw the UK saving lives and thought whale oil beef hooked, that's a clever idea, let's nick it...

Thanks for that. Is that necessarily true, though? What you appear to be saying is that a child can safely stick a fork into a U.K. socket and not be electrocuted?

[original PM]

Thanks for that. Is that necessarily true, though? What you appear to be saying is that a child can safely stick a fork into a U.K. socket and not be electrocuted?

No it's fook all to do with that.

The argument is that the CE mark used in Europe does not necessarily mean it is conforming to the best available standard.

[Eirikur]

No it's fook all to do with that.

The argument is that the CE mark used in Europe does not necessarily mean it is conforming to the best available standard.

The UK having one standard (for wall outlets) better then the EU standard doesn't mean this is the case for everything.
It's one of these straws the brexiteers are desperately clutching at

[meridian]

No it's fook all to do with that.

The argument is that the CE mark used in Europe does not necessarily mean it is conforming to the best available standard.

That’s what I was asking - why, technically, it is considered that the U.K. 3-pin plug is a better standard.

My question was why is the U.K. configuration considered safer.

(The CE mark, incidentally, does not mean that anything conforms to the “best” standard, only that it meets minimum standards).

[BlasterBates]

In the UK many devices don't actually connect to the 3rd pin. It isn't necessary for safety purposes if the device is insulated.

2 pin plugs also have an earth connection, it's just they use clips either side of the plug instead of a pin.

No difference with respect to safety.

[Zigenare]

The UK having one standard (for wall outlets) better then the EU standard doesn't mean this is the case for everything.
It's one of these straws the brexiteers are desperately clutching at

You could always **** off back to your precious Netherlands.