Deregulation, a main reason for Brexit?

[Paddy]

Jeremy Corbyn has said Brexit talks with the government are stalling because of a Tory desire for post-withdrawal deregulation, including as part of a US trade deal.

So the sticking point of Brexit is deregulation even though deregulation was not mentioned in the Leave Campaign.

[Eirikur]

So the sticking point of Brexit is deregulation even though deregulation was not mentioned in the Leave Campaign.

Corbyn is also saying he doesn't hate jews and doesn't support terrorist organisations

[woohoo]

So the sticking point of Brexit is deregulation even though deregulation was not mentioned in the Leave Campaign.

Are you serious? You must be trolling, apologies if you are not, it's hard to tell on this forum.

[BlasterBates]

Oh dear

A quick trade agreement between Britain and the United States is not on the cards if any damages is done to the Good Friday Agreement, Nancy Pelosi has said

[Yorkie62]

Nothing like the power on the American Irish movement that provided finance to the IRA for all those years. How quickly things are forgotten.

If leaving the EU gets enables us to stop feeding the chickens we eat antibiotics (banned in America incidentally) then that can only be a good thing.

[meridian]

Nothing like the power on the American Irish movement that provided finance to the IRA for all those years. How quickly things are forgotten.

That’s sort of the point, they (the US) haven’t forgotten. There’s a powerful lobby there that’s always been on the side of Ireland.

(I do know that your point was about funding violence, but there’s another way to look at it).

If leaving the EU gets enables us to stop feeding the chickens we eat antibiotics (banned in America incidentally) then that can only be a good thing.

British poultry farmers can stop using antibiotics any time they like. “The EU” (including the U.K.) hasn’t banned them, but doesn’t require their use either.

[WTFH]

Deregulation, a main reason for Brexit?

If leaving the EU gets enables us to stop feeding the chickens we eat antibiotics (banned in America incidentally) then that can only be a good thing.

Please provide evidence that the EU forces UK poultry farmers to feed them antibiotics.
Please also provide evidence that US farming standards are as ethical as the UK’s.

Actually, regarding my first point, while we wait for you to change the subject:
EU bans prophylactic use of antibiotics in farming | Compassion in Food Business

So, the EU is banning it. And what are your beloved Tories wanting to do? Oh yes...
Government plans to avoid EU ban on farmers using preventative antibiotics | Sustain

[Yorkie62]

Please provide evidence that the EU forces UK poultry farmers to feed them antibiotics.
Please also provide evidence that US farming standards are as ethical as the UK’s.

Actually, regarding my first point, while we wait for you to change the subject:
EU bans prophylactic use of antibiotics in farming | Compassion in Food Business

So, the EU is banning it. And what are your beloved Tories wanting to do? Oh yes...
Government plans to avoid EU ban on farmers using preventative antibiotics | Sustain

From the first page in the first link you quoted

"Estimates suggest that in Europe two thirds of our antibiotics are used on livestock animals."

Also from your link. The EU banning the use of antibiotoics in the rearing of livestock,....... but not really
"Preventative antibiotic treatments for individual animals will still be permitted in exceptional circumstances where the risk of disease is high. Group treatments will also be allowed if disease has been diagnosed in some of the animals and there is a high risk it will spread to others, and no alternative treatments are available."

Another link for you from March 2019

Tonnes of antibiotics still used in UK chicken farms raising fears over drug resistant diseases, investigation finds | The Independent

"Tonnes of antibiotics are still being used in UK poultry farming amid growing fears over the spread of drug resistant diseases, an investigation suggests."

"Ionophores are used to prevent the intestinal disease coccidiosis which affects chickens when they ingest chicken droppings."

Ionophores, antibiotics by another name, are legal to use throughout the EU , but banned by America for use in animal rearing

[BlasterBates]

US and China to circumvent the WTO

The WTO is basically breaking up.

[meridian]

From the first page in the first link you quoted

"Estimates suggest that in Europe two thirds of our antibiotics are used on livestock animals."

Also from your link. The EU banning the use of antibiotoics in the rearing of livestock,....... but not really
"Preventative antibiotic treatments for individual animals will still be permitted in exceptional circumstances where the risk of disease is high. Group treatments will also be allowed if disease has been diagnosed in some of the animals and there is a high risk it will spread to others, and no alternative treatments are available."

Another link for you from March 2019

Tonnes of antibiotics still used in UK chicken farms raising fears over drug resistant diseases, investigation finds | The Independent

"Tonnes of antibiotics are still being used in UK poultry farming amid growing fears over the spread of drug resistant diseases, an investigation suggests."

"Ionophores are used to prevent the intestinal disease coccidiosis which affects chickens when they ingest chicken droppings."

Ionophores, antibiotics by another name, are legal to use throughout the EU , but banned by America for use in animal rearing

All of your text and links shows that the U.K. uses antibiotics on chickens.

However, your statement was that leaving the EU would enable us to stop, implying that the EU forces U.K. farmers to use them.

You’re saying one thing, but providing evidence for another thing.

Here’s some further information for you:

http://www.saveourantibiotics.org/me...try-sector.pdf

The statistics published by the British Poultry Council suggest that, even without considering any of the antibiotics used in egg-layers or in game birds, British chicken and turkey farmers are using about 44 mg per kg of population correction unit (PCU; the European livestock unit), whereas in Denmark poultry farmers use about 21 mg/kg.v vi In Sweden, antibiotic use in poultry is even lower, with just 28 out of 3,191 broiler flocks receiving any antibiotics in 2015, and the average rate of use being below 1 mg/kg.vii In Finland no antibiotics have been used on any broiler farm since 2010.viii

So Finland is in the EU, but uses no antibiotics.

It is not an “EU” issue to solve, and ironically if it did solve it via Directive you would probably complain that the EU are telling us what to do....