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Are Brexiters really so insecure

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    #11
    Originally posted by woohoo View Post
    Leave the EU, you have to leave the custom union and single market - it's pretty darn clear. This various different types of leave it just another tactic to try and justify not leaving or a second referendum.

    Are you saying that it's a hard Brexit, set up border check points in NI, no agreements, send the foreigners home?

    Is that what you voted for?
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #12
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      And did they appear as options on the referendum?
      Originally posted by NotAllThere View Post
      And are any mutually exclusive?
      Originally posted by WTFH View Post
      What are these 3 or 4.5 different views, and which one did most people vote for?
      Probably not mutually exclusive. The only real leave options I can think of, and two of those are similar, are

      1) No Deal - the default as voted for when parliament voted to trigger A50

      2) The Malthouse compromise - a version of the above

      3) The deal "Negotiated" with the EU since triggering A50.

      3 views of how we should leave the EU. My preference I think would be for option 2 over option 1 but I would like to know more about option 2 before finally commiting

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        #13
        We voted to leave the EU and that's what we should do, deal or no deal. If the EU and our politicians can't come to a mutually acceptable deal then its no deal.

        I think both sides have been very poor at negotiating a deal and its ultimately been spoilt by too much shilly-shallying and carpers on the fence as well as the guerrilla warfare employed by the project fear mongers. The EU could have given Cameron a few carrots when he did the rounds originally but they never thought we'd actually vote to leave and anyway their final solution is to eradicate national boundaries and regional identity. I don't think the people want that to happen. The EU should have stuck with being a trade club rather than become a political club.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
          Probably not mutually exclusive. The only real leave options I can think of, and two of those are similar, are

          1) No Deal - the default as voted for when parliament voted to trigger A50

          2) The Malthouse compromise - a version of the above

          3) The deal "Negotiated" with the EU since triggering A50.

          3 views of how we should leave the EU. My preference I think would be for option 2 over option 1 but I would like to know more about option 2 before finally commiting
          So 6 million for each of those, against 15 million to remain.

          Ain't democracy wonderful.
          Down with racism. Long live miscegenation!

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            #15
            Originally posted by woohoo View Post
            Leave the EU, you have to leave the custom union and single market - it's pretty darn clear. This various different types of leave is just another tactic to try and justify not leaving or a second referendum.
            Is Norway, or is Switzerland, in the EU?
            I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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              #16
              Originally posted by tazdevil View Post
              as well as the guerrilla warfare employed by the project fear mongers.
              Yep, always someone else's fault isn't it fella? MTFU dude and take responsibility for your actions. You helped create this mess .... own it
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #17
                Originally posted by Yorkie62 View Post
                I would like to know more about option 2 before finally commiting

                But you committed by making your vote without knowing the details of any option.

                If you want to have a final commitment, do you mean you want a referendum where the precise choices are laid out, not just the lies written on the side of a bus?
                …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                  MTFU dude and take responsibility for your actions. You helped create this mess .... own it
                  This is exactly what I say to Remainers. It's brings them out in a red-faced angry flush.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                    But you committed by making your vote without knowing the details of any option.
                    As indeed did everyone who voted remain. There is no status quo in the EU. Why are remainers too thick to acknowledge this?

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Platypus View Post
                      As indeed did everyone who voted remain. There is no status quo in the EU. Why are remainers too thick to acknowledge this?

                      Those who voted to remain did not win, you might have forgotten that. To the victors go the spoils. And the victors need to start delivering on their victory, or just revert to their MO of blaming others.
                      …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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