Originally posted by meridian
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Thousands of UK lorry drivers face being barred from entering EU
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Originally posted by meridian View PostYou voted for us to be a third country, you really need to own your decision and understand exactly what being a third party is.
Taking responsibility is not their strength.
Their strength is not answering questions on what they want. They're also quite adept at believing the fantasist view of the land of Narnia and unicorns.I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostAnd this is a situation completely of the EU's making?
"Figures show more than 11,000 HGV operators applied for a European Conference of Ministers of Transport (ECMT) permit but less than 1,000 of the annual passes were made available.
The Department for Transport said an additional 2,832 one-month permits “will start to be allocated” by the end of the month, although this is still short of how many are required.
The Road Haulage Association (RHA) criticised the decision, describing the current state as an “intolerable position”.
“When the bidding process for permits was first announced, we said that it amounted to nothing more than a lottery system,” RHA chief executive, Richard Burnett said."
So ok fine we will reciprocate - come on you Euro truckers put your hat in the ring for a pass to drive on UK roads.
Roll up roll up.
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Originally posted by Old Greg View PostReciprocating will show them who holds the cards. Let's see the smiles drop off their faces when they realise they've crippled the UK's international trade.
"What you cannot use ECMT permits for
You cannot use ECMT permits:
- to travel through ECMT member countries on journeys to non-ECMT member countries
- for cabotage
- for unaccompanied trailers or semi-trailers
- with vehicles that are not Euro VI compliant"
However the ECMT != the EU...
Soo......
will be interesting to see what will happen.
Oh and no cabotage whatever that is - but it does n to involve cabbages!Comment
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Originally posted by Yorkie62 View PostCan't we get insurance for that!I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter manComment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostInterestingly enough - (after reading stuff) it seems these permits are not permitted for people travelling through ECMT countries to get to non ecmt countries.
"What you cannot use ECMT permits for
You cannot use ECMT permits:
- to travel through ECMT member countries on journeys to non-ECMT member countries
- for cabotage
- for unaccompanied trailers or semi-trailers
- with vehicles that are not Euro VI compliant"
However the ECMT != the EU...
Soo......
will be interesting to see what will happen.
Oh and no cabotage whatever that is - but it does n to involve cabbages!Comment
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Originally posted by Whorty View PostYes, of course, the underwriters say we're a very high risk so the premium will be £39bn. They don't take cheques, and they want it paid in Euros as sterling is not a stable currencyComment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostInterestingly enough - (after reading stuff) it seems these permits are not permitted for people travelling through ECMT countries to get to non ecmt countries.
"What you cannot use ECMT permits for
You cannot use ECMT permits:
- to travel through ECMT member countries on journeys to non-ECMT member countries
- for cabotage
- for unaccompanied trailers or semi-trailers
- with vehicles that are not Euro VI compliant"
However the ECMT != the EU...
Soo......
will be interesting to see what will happen.
Oh and no cabotage whatever that is - but it does n to involve cabbages!"Being nice costs nothing and sometimes gets you extra bacon" - Pondlife.Comment
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Originally posted by original PM View PostInterestingly enough - (after reading stuff) it seems these permits are not permitted for people travelling through ECMT countries to get to non ecmt countries.
"What you cannot use ECMT permits for
You cannot use ECMT permits:
- to travel through ECMT member countries on journeys to non-ECMT member countries
- for cabotage
- for unaccompanied trailers or semi-trailers
- with vehicles that are not Euro VI compliant"
However the ECMT != the EU...
Soo......
will be interesting to see what will happen.
Oh and no cabotage whatever that is - but it does n to involve cabbages!
At it's basest level, No Deal means that there are no agreements between the UK and the EU, or between the UK and any other country that the EU has struck agreements with. UK haulage operators are now no more entitled to automatically work or provide services in the EU than they are in, say, the USA or Australia or Chile. This is because you voted to take away their right to work in the EU.
On top of that base level, there may be "side agreements". ECMT permits are one example of that. They have restrictions, and are not an automatic entitlement.Comment
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