JRM says EU citizen have to leave UK after brexit

[BlasterBates]

an unsupported assertion as usual.

Can you support that with other unsupported assertions ?

probably not

[vetran]

Without migration then the bigots would have nothing to moan about

lets see how this plays out

https://www.theguardian.com/world/li...-election-live

Emil Nilsson, 37, was one of the first to arrive at the town art gallery in Sjöbo, where the Sweden Democrats won 30 percent of the vote in 2014.

“As I see it SD is a protest party and they wouldn’t have needed to exist if politics had been done in another way,” he said, hugging his 8-yr old daughter Maria.

“You can get upset about the party and you can say bad things about their supporters, but SD are a result of bad politics in my opinion.”

Admir Shkodra, 32, who came to Sjöbo from Kosovo in the 1990s, said he was voting Social Democrat.

“I don’t want to vote myself out of the country,” he said of SD. “I have a little daughter I have to think about, and she has both a foreign parent and a Swedish one.”

He said he could not understand the 12 percent of foreign-born citizens which support the Sweden Democrats, according to a survey in May.

“I’m very surprised that foreigners are voting Sweden Democrat.”

[vetran]

Can you support that with other unsupported assertions ?

probably not

no just links to reports and research including a fuller explanation of the later research by the team that created the graph you posted. That was what I did in the earlier post.

I will suggest you are ignoring the data and just posting your opinions which is not exactly helping your case.

[BlasterBates]

no just links to reports and research including a fuller explanation of the later research by the team that created the graph you posted. That was what I did in the earlier post.

I will suggest you are ignoring the data and just posting your opinions which is not exactly helping your case.

Last year net immigration was running at 280,000, it will continue to do so

Freedom of movement to continue after Brexit

For that reason alone you've basically lost the argument.

[vetran]

Last year net immigration was running at 280,000, it will continue to do so

Freedom of movement to continue after Brexit

For that reason alone you've basically lost the argument.

So you count that as fact? Now I see why you are so deluded.

The point about protest is that it can change politicians minds.

[BlasterBates]

So you count that as fact? Now I see why you are so deluded.

The point about protest is that it can change politicians minds.

Which obviously isn't working, Labour are leading in the polls, Be afraid....

be very afraid,

[vetran]

Which obviously isn't working, Labour are leading in the polls, Be afraid....

be very afraid,

you know poll results rarely reflect voting?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8523411.html


looks like Vince is screwed he can't even compete against UKIP

It also placed Ukip level with the Liberal Democrats on six per cent and revealed respondents were split 50-50 on whether to remain in the EU or leave.

It also doesn't show the massive surge remainers are expecting.

Note the polls are less coherent than JC Drunker is after lunchtime.

You would be better reading the squiggles in AssGuru's drool.

[BlasterBates]

you know poll results rarely reflect voting?

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8523411.html


looks like Vince is screwed he can't even compete against UKIP



It also doesn't show the massive surge remainers are expecting.

Note the polls are less coherent than JC Drunker is after lunchtime.

You would be better reading the squiggles in AssGuru's drool.

Prepare for poverty and a diet of Tripe and Onions.

Trade Union members favour freedom of movement

Many Unite, Unison and GMB members earn below-average wages. They might be expected to support that part of the Brexit agenda. They don’t. Overwhelming majorities, ranging from 74% to 85%, want EU citizens either to have complete freedom of movement to come to the UK, or the freedom to settle here if they have a job or university place lined up.

It doesn't look like UKIP will be running the UK, but they may take enough votes from the Tories.

[xoggoth]

Again lots of brexiteer bulltulip. In the region were I live there are many very highly educated EU citizen working in all sorts of scientific research institutions of Many have announced they are leaving after Brexit and I know of many who have already left.
Like me, many EU immigrants send their children to private schools and have private health insurance as both public education and healthservice in this country is amongst the worst in the EU. So we pay the tax for education and health but we're actually not using it.

Pretty typical pro EU opinion, based on personal experience rather than any verified statistics. Of course if you are highly educated in a skilled job, living in a decent area, most of the people you know will be of similar nature, that is obvious. Most in a job requiring a degree do not mix a lot with people who wash cars! Your "argument" might carry more weight if you had any actual percentage for these highly educated EU citizens.

Certainly I, and most "right wingers", have no problem with high performing migrants like yourself, they are a real benefit. You are welcome. Unfortunately, you are not representative of the whole, as the statistics I quoted indicate. Sure, most will be hard working decent people but they work in relatively low grade employment - as shop assistants, in cafes, data processors for marketing companies etc. The UK is a low productivity nation compared to Germany in large part because we have a higher proportion of these type of jobs. It is not the future we should be pursuing.

[xoggoth]

In general, arguments seem to confuse free movement with immigration generally. There are no laws in the UK, the EU or any other democratic nations that ban emigration.

Ending free movement does not stop the UK or any European nation from taking in migrants, the important point is that we are free to take in those we really need, whether it's the highly skilled or seasonal farm workers.