Would hardline brexiteers be willing to give up NI altogheter

[GreenMirror]

While giving up NI can we give up Scotland and Wales too?

[Lance]

Who would negotiate that then?

There is no way on earth that the EU would offer that. Their treatment of Cameron the last time he went cap-in-hand certainly did something to contribute to the referendum result.

That’s pretty much the Norway deal with a few alterations around fishing. You’re right we shouldn’t want that but I can see a fudged deal that means that.

[DeludedKitten]

We shall see. By the time any deal has been fudged we’d be better off inside with a rebate, a veto and influence.

At the moment, we're inside with lots of opt-outs.

In the future, we'll be outside asking for lots of opt ins.

[meridian]

Who would negotiate that then?

There is no way on earth that the EU would offer that. Their treatment of Cameron the last time he went cap-in-hand certainly did something to contribute to the referendum result.

No, the rabid right-wing press that expected some sort of exceptionalism for Cameron contributed to the perception that he went cap-in-hand and received nothing.

The deal we already have is better than any other EU country, and yet it’s still not good enough for the moaning minnies.

[Lance]

No, the rabid right-wing press that expected some sort of exceptionalism for Cameron contributed to the perception that he went cap-in-hand and received nothing.

The deal we already have is better than any other EU country, and yet it’s still not good enough for the moaning minnies.

This ^^^^^

Thatcher pulled a blinder with the rebate. Why do the thatcherites want to throw it away. The old bitch must be turning in her grave.

[sasguru]

This ^^^^^

Thatcher pulled a blinder with the rebate. Why do the thatcherites want to throw it away. The old bitch must be turning in her grave.

We had a cushty number with our deal with the EU. Keep our currency, get the rebate, get access to the largest or second largest market in the world for free.
I accept our politicians fooked up by putting no restrictions on EU migration. But that's our fault not the EU's.
The EU has a get-out clause saying EU migrants should not have access to free benefits - so all that needed to be done is insist on private health care for any EU incomer, because in the UK unlike most of Europe, healthcare is free. Look at the barriers Switzerland puts up - it means they simply get the best people, while, on paper, following EU free-movement rules.
But no, crass stupidity and incompetence couldn't organise that simple proviso.

It's too late now, of course, I do hope a hard Brexit is in the offing.

[DimPrawn]

We had a cushty number with our deal with the EU. Keep our currency, get the rebate, get access to the largest or second largest market in the world for free.
I accept our politicians fooked up by putting no restrictions on EU migration. But that's our fault not the EU's.
The EU has a get-out clause saying EU migrants should not have access to free benefits - so all that needed to be done is insist on private health care for any EU incomer, because in the UK unlike most of Europe, healthcare is free. Look at the barriers Switzerland puts up - it means they simply get the best people, while, on paper, following EU free-movement rules.
But no, crass stupidity and incompetence couldn't organise that simple proviso.

It's too late now, of course, I do hope a hard Brexit is in the offing.

More chance of Mrs May giving you a hard one, I'm afraid.

[Old Greg]

We had a cushty number with our deal with the EU. Keep our currency, get the rebate, get access to the largest or second largest market in the world for free.
I accept our politicians fooked up by putting no restrictions on EU migration. But that's our fault not the EU's.
The EU has a get-out clause saying EU migrants should not have access to free benefits - so all that needed to be done is insist on private health care for any EU incomer, because in the UK unlike most of Europe, healthcare is free. Look at the barriers Switzerland puts up - it means they simply get the best people, while, on paper, following EU free-movement rules.
But no, crass stupidity and incompetence couldn't organise that simple proviso.

It's too late now, of course, I do hope a hard Brexit is in the offing.

Outside Schengen too.

The EEA would be a pretty good solution that would fit well with the centre ground of British sentiment. A bit in / a bit out / let the centre pursue ever closer union if it feels like it.

However, the disaster capitalists won't have the spirit of Brexit betrayed, so it's 20 years' hard labour down the jam mines for the lot of you!

[sasguru]

More chance of Mrs May giving you a hard one, I'm afraid.

You mean May giving you a hard one.
Your CSE grade 3 in Geography and VB3 skills weren't enough to escape, then?

[Old Greg]

You mean May giving you a hard one.
Your CSE grade 3 in Geography and VB3 skills weren't enough to escape, then?

Ironic that he still ended up in Swindon.