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    #71
    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    Do not put man made rules which could easily be changed as the reason we cannot change.
    I totally agree with you - rules such as how the UK controls its own borders - we could have changed that while still being in the EU, but successive home secretaries refused to do so
    Rules about VAT on home energy bills which could have been reduced while still being in the EU, but successive chancellors of the exchequer refused to do so
    Rules about deporting dangerous foreign criminals - we could (and did) that while still being in the EU, both EU citizens and non-EU citizens
    Rules on immigration and benefits - we could have changed them - perhaps adopting some of the rules that other EU countries have - while still being in the EU, but successive home secretaries refused to do so

    Originally posted by original PM View Post
    The only thing stopping that happening in the future is rules made by bigoted old men designed solely to line their own pockets.
    Again, in full agreement, except Jacob Rees-Mogg, Boris Johnson, David Davies, Michael Gove, Jeremy Hunt etc are not old.
    And these are the people who refused to change the rules, then tried to tell you that they couldn't.
    …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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      #72
      Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
      There's a reason why your average Brit doesn't have a firearm at home.
      I wouldn't trust the old man with the remote control let alone anything else.
      "Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience". Mark Twain

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        #73
        Originally posted by Zigenare View Post
        So culturally you would equate the Swiss with Brits?

        There's a reason why your average Brit doesn't have a firearm at home.
        And there’s a reason why your average Swiss person does, but that has nothing to do with the argument.

        Governments and countries that are used to holding referendums (CH, IE, etc) seem better able to have sensible rational discussions with their citizens without it all descending into lies, drama, and hyperbole. On both sides.

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          #74
          Originally posted by meridian View Post
          And there’s a reason why your average Swiss person does, but that has nothing to do with the argument.

          Governments and countries that are used to holding referendums (CH, IE, etc) seem better able to have sensible rational discussions with their citizens without it all descending into lies, drama, and hyperbole. On both sides.
          Estimated amount of guns per 100 citizen Switzerland 24.45 UK 6.2 So you average Swiss person does not have a gun.
          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country

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            #75
            Originally posted by Eirikur View Post
            Estimated amount of guns per 100 citizen Switzerland 24.45 UK 6.2 So you average Swiss person does not have a gun.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Estima...ita_by_country
            But that wasn’t what was stated, it was “at home”. You’re comparing per capita, not per residence.

            Regardless, the point was that there was a reason why Swiss have higher levels of accessibility to a gun but that that was’t the argument anyway....

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