Where’s the border this week?

[meridian]

North south?

East west?

Somewhere vaguely in the middle, like a Korean DMZ?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...tus-1.3516051?

Britain’s Brexit secretary David Davis is creating a Brexit plan that would give Northern Ireland joint UK and European Union status so it could trade freely with both, as well as a buffer zone to eliminate the need for border checkpoints with Ireland, The Sun newspaper reported on Thursday.

Mr Davis is drawing a proposed 16km-wide trade buffer zone along the border that would be in effect for local traders, like dairy farmers, after Britain leaves the bloc, the newspaper said.

[Old Greg]

Much amusement all round on Good Morning Ireland today at silly Mr Davies.

[WTFH]

The plans are likely to be opposed by the Northern Irish party, the Democratic Unionist Party, that supports Prime Minister Theresa May’s minority government and has said they will oppose any Brexit deal that sees the province operate under different regulations to the rest of the United Kingdom.

So, in the words of the DUP "Ulster says no."

[meridian]

So, in the words of the DUP "Ulster says no."

Given where the DMZ would be, Connaught and Leinster also say “**** right off”

[WTFH]

Given where the DMZ would be, Connaught and Leinster also say “**** right off”

Just looked, and basically it moves the border south to cover most of Ulster (the province), or moves it north to Derry, Enniskillen, Dungannon, Armagh & Newry.

[Old Greg]

Given where the DMZ would be, Connaught and Leinster also say “**** right off”

Given that there are more Roman Catholics in Ulster than there are Protestants, Ulster may not be quite as impressed as the DUP think.

[WTFH]

To answer the title of the thread, I've found where the border is...
https://twitter.com/BorderIrish

[The_Equalizer]

Given that there are more Roman Catholics in Ulster than there are Protestants, Ulster may not be quite as impressed as the DUP think.

Not quite true though and even if it were, so what?

[WTFH]

Not quite true though and even if it were, so what?

I think for Ulster it is true, but for NI it is too close to call.

In the 2011 census it was 42% Protestant to 41% Catholic, with the Protestant rate in decline while the Catholic rate was increasing rapidly.
https://www.ninis2.nisra.gov.uk/publ...Commentary.pdf

[Old Greg]

Not quite true though and even if it were, so what?

Well it is true.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ulster..._sub-divisions

Geography and political sub-divisions

Ulster (coloured), showing Northern Ireland in orange and the Republic of Ireland part in green
Ulster has a population of just over 2 million people and an area of 21,552 square kilometres (8,321 sq mi). About 62% of the area of Ulster is in the UK while the remaining 38% is in the Republic of Ireland. Ulster's biggest city, Belfast, has an urban population of over half a million inhabitants, making it the second-largest city on the island of Ireland and the 10th largest urban area in the UK. Six of Ulster's nine counties, Antrim, Armagh, Down, Fermanagh, Londonderry and Tyrone, including the former parliamentary boroughs of Belfast and Londonderry, form Northern Ireland which remained part of the United Kingdom after the partition of Ireland in 1921. Three Ulster counties – Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan – form part of the Republic of Ireland. About half of Ulster's population lives in counties Antrim and Down. Across the nine counties, according to the aggregate UK 2011 Census for Northern Ireland, and the ROI 2011 Census for counties Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan, there is a Roman Catholic majority over Protestant of 50.8% to 42.7%

In terms of 'So what', my comment was in relation to 'Ulster says No', so not much of a 'So what' really, just a passing comment.