Reply to: Where’s the border this week?

[meridian]

...aaaaand, No 10 has shot it down.

For all her faults (and there are many) May has the patience of a saint with Davis. He must be wondering just how incompetent he needs to be before she’ll sack him.

[Old Greg]

I thought I recognised the writing style. Back to using Old Greg, eh.

You know how it is. Her ladyship's busy setting up the gammon trade for Operation Stack.

[motoukenin]

North south?

East west?

Somewhere vaguely in the middle, like a Korean DMZ?

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/irel...tus-1.3516051?

Not surprised Davis has come up with an imaginary border just about everything else he has negotiated is.

[The_Equalizer]

You missed the fada.
People listen to Good Morning Ireland, rather than watch it.
I was talking about amusement on Good Morning Ireland - the presenters. They don't come across as very SF to me.

Apart from that, keep up the good work.

I thought I recognised the writing style. Back to using Old Greg, eh.

[darmstadt]

There are further options:

[Old Greg]

Considering the gains that Sinn Fein have made in local elections I would suggest that there may be 1 or 2 SF voters who also watch GMI.

Z - In "Nice use of the fada" - mode...

You missed the fada.
People listen to Good Morning Ireland, rather than watch it.
I was talking about amusement on Good Morning Ireland - the presenters. They don't come across as very SF to me.

Apart from that, keep up the good work.

[Zigenare]

Good Morning Ireland is the equivalent of the Today programme. Very establishment and not at all Sinn Féin.

Considering the gains that Sinn Fein have made in local elections I would suggest that there may be 1 or 2 SF voters who also watch GMI.

Z - In "Nice use of the fada" - mode...

[Old Greg]

I'm sure there is - certainly amongst the Sinn Fein voting morons who see "Brexit" as a back door to a unified Ireland.

Good Morning Ireland is the equivalent of the Today programme. Very establishment and not at all Sinn Féin.

[Old Greg]

I do chuckle that the term West Brit is still used. Just correct their mistake and write 'C-, could try harder' in red at the bottom of the page. It's the ones the change it to 'The North' you need to watch.

Unfortunately they do pay my Ltd's bills. I did have quite an argument with someone over it, just on factual terms.

I've not had anyone try to 'correct' to 'the North' in writing, b

But it's sometimes used in conversation in meetings etc.

It would be much easier if everyone used terms correctly as follows:

'Ireland' for the island (or 'island of Ireland' where it may cause confusion)
'Ireland' for the state (or 'Republic of Ireland' where it may cause confusion, but not 'Irish Republic' as some UK news outlets do or 'Southern Ireland', both of which are historical terms, or 'Éire' in the same way that we do not say 'Italia' in English)
'Northern Ireland' for the province of the UK
'Ulster' for the nine northern counties of the island of Ireland
'Great Britain' for the island

I don't know what the answer is for 'British Isles'. I avoid the term. People seem to be playing fairly nicely around 'Derry' and 'Londonderry'. I avoid the term like the plague and have been known to use the term 'Altnagelvin local catchment area' in work meetings with a cross-border attendance.


'West Brit' is pretty offensive but I get away with it if I use the term playfully. I'm yet to hear the term 'the Hun', except from my dear wife of course.

[The_Equalizer]

We(The UK) and they(Eire) can't afford unification.

I'll get this in before the Remainers...

Doesn't mean people won't vote for it.

[Zigenare]

A referendum on a UI is the one thing I could see reigniting 'The Troubles'. Imagine Scots Indy Ref, Brexit and a good dose of sectarianism/triumphalism rolled into one.

We(The UK) and they(Eire) can't afford unification.

[Zigenare]

I'd miss Scotland, but on the whole you can keep the Remain bits.

Scotland's ok apart from one major problem, its people. A bit like France really.

[The_Equalizer]

I'm sure there is - certainly amongst the Sinn Fein voting morons who see "Brexit" as a back door to a unified Ireland.

A referendum on a UI is the one thing I could see reigniting 'The Troubles'. Imagine Scots Indy Ref, Brexit and a good dose of sectarianism/triumphalism rolled into one.

[Zigenare]

Much amusement all round on Good Morning Ireland today at silly Mr Davies.

I'm sure there is - certainly amongst the Sinn Fein voting morons who see "Brexit" as a back door to a unified Ireland.

[The_Equalizer]

In terms of the DUP, it's easy to see them as simply bible bashers, but they are pretty pragmatic when it comes to business and trade. Where they are quite right is that there cannot be a customs barrier between NI and GB.

I'd typed exactly that and then not posted. I would would have thought that one defence would be to imply the lowering of business rates in Northern Ireland to undercut RoI should an agreement not be forthcoming. It's in both RoI and UK's interest to make this work.