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Brexit: Draft Withdrawal Agreement published!

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    #11
    Don't forget this word in the agreement..."Draft" and from the agreement:

    The colouring of the text corresponds to the following meanings: text in green is agreed at negotiators' level, and will only be subject to technical legal revisions in the coming weeks. For text in yellow, negotiators agreed on the policy objective. Drafting changes or clarifications are still required. Text in white corresponds to text proposed by the Union on which discussions are ongoing.
    Have a read of it...
    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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      #12
      Brexit: Draft Withdrawal Agreement published!

      The U.K. is out of the EU on March 2019, and will be accepting EU law without representation for the following 2 years. At the end of December2020 the U.K. is not only out, it loses all access to rolled over third party FTAs and has nothing to leverage for any EU FTA - and even if it had, any EU FTA will need to be ratified by 27 member states plus their regional governments. It’s just not going to happen in that timeframe.

      Vassal state it is, followed by hard Brexit.

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        #13
        You kidding me ? Thats a withdrawal document ? Your going to abide by EU laws, accept the fisheries agreements, pay them 38 Billion and all EU citizens will have same rights as everyone else.. the list goes on.

        So many back downs and red lines crossed you have successfully negotiated exactly what you had before the vote and all at an enormous cost.

        I would say the world is not laughing with you this time.
        Warning unicorn meat may give you hallucinations

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          #14
          Only on my phone with no search facility does it mention

          Passporting

          Thanks in advance

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              #16
              Originally posted by tarbera View Post
              Only on my phone with no search facility does it mention

              Passporting

              Thanks in advance
              Apparently, we can have a blue one now
              I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                #17
                I don't see the usual Brexit suspects on here debating this document and telling us how much the EU needs us, we have all the cards and they can go an whistle unless we get what we want. I assume this is because either :

                a) they haven't read it
                b) they have read it and don't understand it
                c) the Sun/Mirror/Express *(delete as appropriate) hasn't told them what to think yet
                I am what I drink, and I'm a bitter man

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                  #18
                  It took six months and a lot of work but we’ve caved completely, says David Davis

                  The seven promises that were made were:

                  - A transition period will be about ‘implementing’ the future relationship, not negotiating it
                  Today’s agreement shows the bulk of the future relationship will be negotiated after we have left the EU. David Davis said at today’s press conference that the transition will be “the platform upon which we build the new relationship.”
                  - The UK will not pay money to the EU after March 2019
                  The Government has conceded the UK will have to pay a divorce bill of around £40bn, with payments continuing until 2064. And the Prime Minister now says the UK should make “an appropriate financial contribution” for participation in a range of EU agencies.
                  "For the years 2019 and 2020, in accordance with Part Four, the United Kingdom shall contribute to and participate in the implementation of the Union budgets."

                  - The UK will not have to abide by EU rules during transition
                  The UK will have to abide by all EU rules and regulations including those agreed by members states during transition.
                  "During the transition period, where draft Union acts identify or refer directly to specific Member State authorities, procedures, or documents, the United Kingdom shall be consulted by the Union on such drafts with a view to ensuring the proper implementation and application of that act by and in the United Kingdom."

                  - The UK will ‘take back control’ of fisheries policy
                  The UK has backed down after the EU made access to UK waters on existing terms throughout the transition period a red line.
                  “As regards the fixing of fishing opportunities within the meaning of Article 43(3) TFEU for any period falling within the transition period, the United Kingdom shall be consulted in respect of the fishing opportunities related to the United Kingdom… the Union shall offer the opportunity to the United Kingdom to provide comments on the Commission Annual Communication on fishing opportunities…”

                  - Free movement will end in March 2019
                  Ministers now accept that free movement will continue during transition, with the only difference being the implementation of a new registration scheme which could have been done as an EU member state. The Prime Minister also quickly backed down over her demand that new arrivals from the EU should not have the same rights as those here already.
                  “Unless otherwise provided in this Agreement, Union law shall be applicable to and in the United Kingdom during the transition period.”

                  - The UK will have new trade deals ready to come into force on 29 March 2019
                  The UK will not have any new trade deals ready to sign because they cannot even start negotiating them until the UK has left the EU. Even during transition, the UK will not be able to implement any new trade deals. New trade deals will take many years to negotiate, and we could lose some of the deals we currently enjoy with 65 countries around the world.
                  “Notwithstanding paragraph 3, during the transition period, the United Kingdom may negotiate, sign and ratify international agreements entered into in its own capacity in the areas of exclusive competence of the Union, provided those agreements do not enter into force or apply during the transition period, unless so authorised by the Union.”

                  - The implementation period would last for two years and should not be time limited
                  The Government has agreed to a fixed transition period of just 21 months. All this does is extend the Brexit cliff-edge until 1 January 2021 – which is no way near enough time to negotiate the future relationship.
                  “There shall be a transition or implementation period, which shall start on the date of entry into force of this Agreement and end on 31 December 2020.”


                  Pretty damn good at negotiating, I wonder how the UK government will get on with Russia in the not too distant future
                  Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Whorty View Post
                    I don't see the usual Brexit suspects on here debating this document and telling us how much the EU needs us, we have all the cards and they can go an whistle unless we get what we want. I assume this is because either :

                    a) they haven't read it
                    b) they have read it and don't understand it
                    c) the Sun/Mirror/Express *(delete as appropriate) hasn't told them what to think yet
                    d) because, whatever the outcome they will not be happy with it.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by clearedforlanding View Post
                      d) because, whatever the outcome they will not be happy with it.
                      nah sounds like a remoaner!
                      Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.

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