EU waiting for the UK government to collapse

[BlasterBates]

EU waiting for the UK government to collapse

The next milestone.

[Eirikur]

It tells you something that even the EU fears a labour government under Corbyn. May's government is a chaos but a Corbyn government will be even worse

[meridian]

It tells you something that even the EU fears a labour government under Corbyn. May's government is a chaos but a Corbyn government will be even worse

The EU are propping up May because any alternative (either JC, or any of the potential Tory candidates) would be worse. Unfortunately, this means that the current government is a lame duck, no authority to do anything, split on their approach, morally bankrupt.

We're all facked.

[chopper]

So basically we hold the cards? The EU gives us what we want, or the Tory government dissolves and we/they get Corbyn.

[Hobosapien]

So basically we hold the cards? The EU gives us what we want, or the Tory government dissolves and we/they get Corbyn.

The whole deck is full of jokers yet the players think they're all holding aces.

[ProInDisguise]

This will be the 3rd government that will have fallen since the Brexit Vote. Has there ever been a more idiotic idea by a government with a majority?

[NotAllThere]

So basically we hold the cards? The EU gives us what we want, or the Tory government dissolves and we/they get Corbyn.

Kind of... except if Corbyn gets in we'll be even more fsked. May is the worst Prime Minister we've had for decades. Corbyn would be worse.

[BlasterBates]

Find it interesting that a lot of Brexiteers such as Ms Hartley-Brewer would be "insulted" by a paltry "Canada style deal".

Cake and eating is the only acceptable way forward. Fortunately the UK holds all the cards, so they'll get what for from Julia.

[WTFH]

Cake and eating is the only acceptable way forward. Fortunately the UK holds all the cards, so they'll get what for from Julia. has the Great British Bake Off, so cake is not a problem

FTFY

[chopper]

Find it interesting that a lot of Brexiteers such as Ms Hartley-Brewer would be "insulted" by a paltry "Canada style deal".

It surprises me how many of the ultra-Brexiters that look forward to a no deal scenario, think that no deal means we'll end up with deals.

No deal means:
* no flights between UK and EU.
* no trade of services (WTO covers goods, not services)
* limited trade in goods under so-called WTO rules
* no trade in livestock or meat
* no recognition of UK driving licences
* no mutual recognition of standards (i.e. we could recognise EU standards, but they wouldn't recognise ours. For example, cars built in the UK would not be built to a recognised EU standard, even if our standards are the same as EU standards. Therefore would not be allowed on EU roads).
* no trade in pharmateuticals or chemicals due to lack of recognition of standards.
* many more things preceded by 'no'.

If we have deals for any or all of those things, then by definition that is not 'no deal'. If the UK introduces laws that say we'll treat EU things as if they are UK things, then that just means the EU companies could trade with us whilst UK companies could not trade with the EU.

And if there is no deal, why are the EU worried about rights of EU citizens in the UK? No EU citizen would want to be here.

And herein lies the problem. There are many things about the EU that are a good thing. There are some really terrible things, mainly the path to political integration (the thing that remainers are in denial about, despite evidence to the contrary). It would be a shame to throw the baby out with the bathwater, and there really should be a solution where we can have a close relationship with the EU, but be outside it from a political standpoint.