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    #21
    Davis tells commitee that Brexit will provoke ‘paradigm change’ similar to 2008 crash

    absolutely, no point in faffing around with details, just assume you lose your job.

    I'm alright Jack

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      #22
      2008 was incredibly mild.

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        #23
        Originally posted by meridian View Post
        ... or the other 625-odd MPs that voted to trigger A50 without the faintest idea what the impact is on the UK.
        They put it to the public vote first, so the impact should have been known and divulged as part of that in/out campaign. Yet we know it was all bollox without needing a bus with misleading slogans to tell us.

        Brexit is showing the government for what it really is, a bunch of incompetent self serving career politicians that are more out of touch with the public than even the royal family.

        Time for modernisation of the whole political process. No need for MPs when people have the tech to vote on every decision themselves. I'm sure an impartial form of media can be provided to give the public the truth on what they are about to vote for. Too democratic?
        Maybe tomorrow, I'll want to settle down. Until tomorrow, I'll just keep moving on.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Hobosapien View Post
          . No need for MPs when people have the tech to vote on every decision themselves. I'm sure an impartial form of media can be provided to give the public the truth on what they are about to vote for. Too democratic?
          X factor government. The first thing they'd do is reinstate the death penalty. Then they'd raise taxes. Then they'd ban just about everything that is fun.
          The tyranny of the majority. Frightful.

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            #25
            Trying to do an 'impact assessment' for Brexit would have been like trying to predict the future.

            You are all fu<king idiots if you think every single thing can be planned and known before it happens.

            It's quite sad to see supposedly intelligent people reduce to blithering panicking idiots.

            But anyway - given you are all so clever I would have thought you would have done some impact assessments - so come on what's going to happen - put your cards on the table and lets come back in 3 years and see who has a fookin clue what they are talking about.

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              #26
              Originally posted by original PM View Post
              Trying to do an 'impact assessment' for Brexit would have been like trying to predict the future.

              You are all fu<king idiots if you think every single thing can be planned and known before it happens.

              It's quite sad to see supposedly intelligent people reduce to blithering panicking idiots.

              But anyway - given you are all so clever I would have thought you would have done some impact assessments - so come on what's going to happen - put your cards on the table and lets come back in 3 years and see who has a fookin clue what they are talking about.

              It was Davies who said they were in progress, it was Davies who said they would be released, and now that he admits that no studies have been done, you’re saying that he’s not the lying idiot who said they were happening, but anyone who considers it a good idea to look at possible future outcomes is an idiot?
              You really do live in a post-truth, Trump bubble.
              …Maybe we ain’t that young anymore

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                #27
                Originally posted by WTFH View Post
                It was Davies who said they were in progress, it was Davies who said they would be released, and now that he admits that no studies have been done, you’re saying that he’s not the lying idiot who said they were happening, but anyone who considers it a good idea to look at possible future outcomes is an idiot?
                You really do live in a post-truth, Trump bubble.
                What part of 'put your cards on the table and lets come back in a 3 years time to see what has happened' are you struggling with?

                ?

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by original PM View Post
                  What part of 'put your cards on the table and lets come back in a 3 years time to see what has happened' are you struggling with?

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                  There are a multitude of options for the UK to aim for in their future negotiations, from full continued integration ("Norway" or Switzerland" options), through to Canada-style agreements, through to "No Deal".

                  How do you know which option to push for, if you don't know the potential impact of each on the UK?

                  Do you run your contracting business in the same way, just winging it and hoping for the best? Would you agree that that would not be the best way to run a business if you have a wife, kids, and mortgage that rely on your continued income? And if you do agree, then why is that an acceptable way to run a country?

                  (By the way, the EU has completed their own impact assessments because, well, they are prepared and have a position to negotiate that will provide the best outcome for them from this. Those impact assessments are available online for anyone to see)

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by original PM View Post
                    What part of 'put your cards on the table and lets come back in a 3 years time to see what has happened' are you struggling with?

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                    3 years eh? Pretty pointless then...

                    The time-frame allowed in Article 50 is two years - and this can only be extended by unanimous agreement from all EU countries.
                    If no agreement is reached in two years, and no extension is agreed, the UK automatically leaves the EU and all existing agreements - including access to the single market - would cease to apply to the UK. If that happens, Brexit Day would be Friday, 29 March 2019.
                    Your leaders are lying to you, they have no idea what they want nor what they are doing (1) so I think the best the UK is going to get is a righteous cluster****



                    (1) A good example was again shown yesterday when Hammond stated that the divorce bill would be paid regardless yet an hour later, 10 Downing Street said that wasn't true
                    Brexit is having a wee in the middle of the room at a house party because nobody is talking to you, and then complaining about the smell.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by meridian View Post
                      There are a multitude of options for the UK to aim for in their future negotiations, from full continued integration ("Norway" or Switzerland" options), through to Canada-style agreements, through to "No Deal".

                      How do you know which option to push for, if you don't know the potential impact of each on the UK?

                      Do you run your contracting business in the same way, just winging it and hoping for the best? Would you agree that that would not be the best way to run a business if you have a wife, kids, and mortgage that rely on your continued income? And if you do agree, then why is that an acceptable way to run a country?

                      (By the way, the EU has completed their own impact assessments because, well, they are prepared and have a position to negotiate that will provide the best outcome for them from this. Those impact assessments are available online for anyone to see)
                      Do not confuse planning for the future based on knowns with guessing at what the future could hold for unknowns.

                      So for example yes - it is highly likely that 'money' as a thing will not be abolished before I die so the accumulation of wealth is a prudent choice to protect your loved ones.

                      What can you tell me exactly about what will happen after Brexit which you feel you could plan for?

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