EU demands 44 billion to start trade negotiations

[BlasterBates]

Depends - is that your/their final answer?

Or is it £16 billion less than you/they originally thought and were posting about? (March)
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...st2386030.html


Or is it only £6 billion less? (May)
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...st2410478.html


or is it £16 billion less again? (May)
http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...st2415500.html


Or is it only £56 billion less (July - Oct)
http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...st2447815.html
http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...st2464532.html
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ml#post2472434
http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...ml#post2480802


or is it £16 billion less again? (Oct)
http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...ml#post2486670


Is this where Brexiteers should insert your usual emoticon and call you a complete melt, tell you to stfu until the actual definitive amount is formally published, rather than repeat the random musings/brainfarts of newspaper editors?


what is it you usually like to say at this point?

oh dear
deary me
deary deary me

indeed 44 billion is the down payment just to start the talks. On a poker table it's simply the opening bet.

[Bean]

So it appears the Brexit papers have revised the figure from 100billion to the various other levels in between, and each time they come up with a new figure they still provide no evidence to back up their wild claims.

But I did notice that this winter the Express is only saying it will be the coldest in 5 years, not their usual 50.

They really do make all their numbers up in an effort to sell the fiction they call news. Who is stupid enough to fall for it?

Just to clarify:
http://forums.contractoruk.com/gener...ore-money.html

http://forums.contractoruk.com/brexi...ml#post2464448

Erm, Well BlasterBates, for one - although we are in general, so I suppose you can label him stupid if you so wish

[Bean]

indeed 44 billion is the down payment just to start the talks. On a poker table it's simply the opening bet.

As WTFH is fond of asking;
Where is the proof that the EU have asked for this, with those condition(s) that you have stated?


WTFH - here is your example of who believes the rubbish the papers put out about the 'bill'

HTH

[BrilloPad]

indeed 44 billion is the down payment just to start the talks. On a poker table it's simply the opening bet.

Why does the UK want to start talks?

[woohoo]

Brexit news - EU demands £44 BILLION to start trade talks reports German media | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

Is the UK ready to pay its legal obligations

hah pay 40bn to the EU so talks can continue so they can continue their huge trade imbalance with us.

[BrilloPad]

hah pay 40bn to the EU so talks can continue so they can continue their huge trade imbalance with us.

And they lend us money to do it.

Do they really think they will see that money again?

[Stevie Wonder Boy]

hah pay 40bn to the EU so talks can continue so they can continue their huge trade imbalance with us.

The answer is 0 - The idea that the 27 countries of the EU would agree a "deal" with the UK is laughable. Look to Greece to understand that they don't care about their own citizens economic well being, its about creating a new nation state. Doing a deal with the UK will undermine that. Come March 2019 it will be no deal and the UK will trade with the EU using WTO rules.

[vetran]

legal obligations?

Sorry still waiting for a full account. Not something the EU is great at!

Oh look its a remainer that thinks the EU tell the truth.

[WTFH]

legal obligations?

Sorry still waiting for a full account. Not something the EU is great at!

Oh look its a remainer that thinks the EU tell the truth.

Most of this obligations appear to be deals that the elected UK government and elected UK MEPs agreed to tie our country into funding. I suspect some of it will also be going into the pension pot of elected UK MEPs like Nigel Farage etc.
Plenty of the details are out there, it doesn't take long to find them as long as you expand your search beyond "Mail Online"

[Bean]

Most of this obligations appear to be deals that the elected UK government and elected UK MEPs agreed to tie our country into funding. I suspect some of it will also be going into the pension pot of elected UK MEPs like Nigel Farage etc.
Plenty of the details are out there, it doesn't take long to find them as long as you expand your search beyond "Mail Online"

One of the items listed in the detailed list was the cost of moving the regulators.

The UK has stated they are happy for them to remain where they are, and it is the EU that wants them to move/states they must move[#1].

So,
1. Is it acceptable or fair, that the UK is asked to pay for them and,
2. Should the UK pay for it?


Source #1 https://ec.europa.eu/commission/site...n-paper_en.pdf