A Brexit Thread from Someone who Didn't Vote

[northernladyuk]

The UK is now full. Except Surrey. All the new arrivals must be housed there.

A cold winter will kill off some Brexiteers, leaving more space for hard-working clever immigrants.

[darmstadt]

"Leaving the EU" means "leaving the EU". All of it. The end.

So why hasn't the UK left the EU and why is continuing to not leave the EU? There was a vote held, then there was the repeal of Article 50 so the UK has had plenty of time since then to sort their tulip out yet now want another few years. Perhaps those in power don't want to leave the EU. May 2019 is cut-off date and everyone knows that yet no-one seems to actually want to go on that date...

[northernladyuk]

So why hasn't the UK left the EU and why is continuing to not leave the EU? There was a vote held, then there was the repeal of Article 50 so the UK has had plenty of time since then to sort their tulip out yet now want another few years. Perhaps those in power don't want to leave the EU. May 2019 is cut-off date and everyone knows that yet no-one seems to actually want to go on that date...

Actually mordac, continue the debate with darmy. The two of you are perfectly matched.

[darmstadt]

Yes but this time, it's the EU targeting referendums and nationalist politicians

I wonder why:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_referendum,_1934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ferendum,_1936
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ferendum,_1938
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1947171...n_tab_contents

[BrilloPad]

If we do have another vote, please can only those who bothered to vote first time be allowed to vote?

[motoukenin]

So why hasn't the UK left the EU and why is continuing to not leave the EU? There was a vote held, then there was the repeal of Article 50 so the UK has had plenty of time since then to sort their tulip out yet now want another few years. Perhaps those in power don't want to leave the EU. May 2019 is cut-off date and everyone knows that yet no-one seems to actually want to go on that date...

Because everyone knows Brexit is a damage limitation argument and not a positive contribution to the economy , thats why Boris tells you how wonderful its going to be but can't explain why.

[Bean]

There’ll be £350 million for the NHS.

And the “small blip” and “difficulties” in the economy, particularly for small businesses who don’t have the money to change their systems to work with new cross border regulations, well if they close down, that’s not an important price to pay for the uncertainty of whatever we end up with. It’s exciting times.

There could be*. It's an option.
*amount to be defined by a manifesto of a political party (of which vote leave doesn't stand in the GE)

What new regulations have been imposed/implemented?
Aren't we still part and parcel of the EU and small businesses have to do that anyway now?

I'd hope there would be some help from the government (and also isn't that what the transition deal is for?), but capitalism determines this, or are you trying to posit that EU regulations will be the cause of businesses closing?

Business opportunities increase when uncertainty arises don't they?

[Bean]

I wonder why:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_referendum,_1934
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ferendum,_1936
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German...ferendum,_1938
https://www.jstor.org/stable/1947171...n_tab_contents

That explains a German position on refs, but not the EU.....unless you're suggesting Germany is actually....

So you don't believe the public should ever be able to vote in a referendum on anything?

Or is there actually any nuance to your post that isn't obvious to the average reader?

[OwlHoot]

I'll keep this concise; we need a second referendum. Monarch is the first major business casualty to come as a result of Brexit, due to an extremely weak pound.

July 19th 2015 the £ vs the Euro was 1.44
August 25th 2017, it's 1.077.
Prior to Brexit the £ was at its weakest in 2013, and even then it was at 1.13.

Why do we need another chance to vote? The turnout was 72%. I didn't vote because frankly, neither side used any FACTUAL information when presenting their argument. No-one actually knew what it meant so honestly, how on earth can you cast a vote? At least when you vote for a party they have a manifesto (not that it is ever stuck to) so you can get at least an idea of what the horizon may look like in a few years time. I am almost certain there were a large number of people who also didn't vote based on this total lack of information or frank dishonesty from both sides.

Oh - and then there was the fact people voted for David Cameron steering us out of the EU - someone who was actually relatively capable, but oh no wait - another lie - he resigned. Whatever happened to "I'll see this through no matter the result!" - the whole thing has been a sham

Brexit voters I really really hope your immigration policies (which won't happen by the way) and "sovereignty" were worth it.

God help us of Corbyn offers us a glimmer of hope to go back in to Europe - I really fear people who wouldn't usually vote for Labour may just do so to get back into the club.

As you didn't vote ... Shut up and stop bellyaching

And for those who did vote, but voted Remain ... Shut up and stop bellyaching

HTH but I'm sure it won't

[OwlHoot]

A cold winter will kill off some Brexiteers ...

Not all White Anglo Saxon Protestants die off in the winter!