How the EU is making a successful Brexit Difficult

[AtW]

There will be great herds of Unicorns roaming the woodlands of the country, sweeping majestically across the vales.

In fact, by 2030 there will be so many of them the government will consider a cull.

Why wait? Govt will start culling right after the election - the first for the chop are the so-called middle classes, almost as rare as unicorns...

[SueEllen]

I have and the talks will founder on the free movement issue.
They are poles apart on that.
No free movement=no access to single market=hard Brexit=firms relocating for bigger markets and access to talent= end of the UK as a viable world economic player.

Not it won't.

The free movement principle has some safe guards in it which British governments of all political colours have decided not to implement e.g. the fact if you can't support yourself you can be deported like beggars of a certain ethnic group from countries that are newer in the EU. The UK government will simply say they will implement them and claim victory then every now and then do a Sarkozy and dump that group on buses to go home.

It's a complete fudge which is one of the reasons Mrs May has decided to go to the polls. She wants a bigger Tory majority to shut up the hard Brexiters plus the Remainers in her own party. She knows Corbyn is weak and people don't like him hence her going for the Labour vote with energy caps and workers rights. Plus the Tory election campaign mentions Conservatives in small letters.

[chopper]

the historic Barnier-Davis agreement.

If you are right, there is no way at all, whatsoever, that it would have any name other than May's name on it. The May-Barnier Agreement.

I do wonder if Davis will even be the SoSeeU in the next government. May will have a much larger pool to choose from.

[squarepeg]

If you are right, there is no way at all, whatsoever, that it would have any name other than May's name on it. The May-Barnier Agreement.

I do wonder if Davis will even be the SoSeeU in the next government. May will have a much larger pool to choose from.

Oh, no. Who will lead the DExEU when he's gone? And how long will it take to find his replacement?

I noticed that DExEU has just published the Welsh translation of the Policy Paper published in English on 2 Feb 2017... Didn't take them long at all.

[SueEllen]

Oh, no. Who will lead the DExEU when he's gone? And how long will it take to find his replacement?

May has already worked out his replacement while on holiday....

[meridian]

The EU have presented the UK bill, obviously the UK doesn't want to pay the bill so Boris Johnson coined the term "punishment beating". However the bill is in line with International Law.

It is a bit like going into a bar, buying a round of drinks and walking out without paying.

My advice is for everyone is to tighten their belts, save up and pay their "bar bill".

Point of order: despite what you might read in the Daily Mail, the EU have not presented any such bill.

The estimated bill is an estimate by the FT, not the EU.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill

[sasguru]

Point of order: despite what you might read in the Daily Mail, the EU have not presented any such bill.

The estimated bill is an estimate by the FT, not the EU.

https://www.instituteforgovernment.o...u-divorce-bill

Quite. Still it makes the Brexiter cretins and useful idiots froth at the mouth, such that when they're given a bill of 60 billion, they'll accept it with relief.

[BlasterBates]

Another huge spanner gets thrown into the works.

Brexit trade deal could take years

cue, "transitional arrangement"....

[OwlHoot]

Another huge spanner gets thrown into the works.

Brexit trade deal could take years

cue, "transitional arrangement"....

Just one more incentive for the UK to cut loose fast, like Alexander slicing the Gordian Knot, and take it from there.

[WTFH]

Just one more incentive for the UK to cut loose fast, like Alexander slicing the Gordian Knot, and take it from there.

But Alexander sliced the knot. He did not cause the knot or choose to vote for the knot. Your analogy falls flat on its face. The Brexit camp are the ones making the choice to leave. The EU did not choose to make the UK leave. The EU did not force the UK to leave. The EU did not have a vote to force the UK to leave. The Brexit camp did all those things, and until they can accept that it is NOT the EU's fault, nor is it the fault of those who did not vote for Brexit, then the sooner they might stop being such snowflakes and actually try to do something positive about the knot they created, then maybe in 20+ years time, Alexander will come along and slice through the Brexit knot.