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How the EU is making a successful Brexit Difficult

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    #31
    Originally posted by WTFH View Post
    Instead the alt right Brexiters are wanting a country where only certain skin colours, certain religions, certain birth certificates are allowed and all others should be loaded into trains and sent "home", unless they want the Brexit slogan of "freedom through work"
    What a load of lefty Bollocks. Smear with racism to try to get your way.

    America Alarmed at Racism in France | HuffPost

    Each year the US Department of State publishes its annual report on Human Rights Practices across the world. In its 2015 report the Department of State expresses concern with anti-Semitic and anti-Muslim incidents in France. Although this concern is justified, it must be put into context.
    UN accuses Germany of ‘institutional racism and racist stereotyping’ against people of African descent | The Independent

    A panel of UN experts has accused Germany of discriminating against people of African descent and allowing widespread racial profiling by the government and security agencies.

    Researchers warned that the situation remains largely invisible to wider society, partly because the country’s colonial past and racism against black people has been “overshadowed” by a focus on Nazi history and the anti-Semitic far-right.
    Good job the EU is only run by nice people...
    "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

    I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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      #32
      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
      What effect would the decline in the UK population have on the number of jobs?
      You asked about UK unemployment.

      I'm suggesting that if the population reduces and the number of jobs reduce the net impact on employment could be low.

      February 2017 EU youth unemployment:

      Italy - 35.4%

      Spain - 41.5%

      Greece - 45.2%
      http://www.cih.org/news-article/disp...housing_market

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        #33
        Originally posted by PurpleGorilla View Post
        You asked about UK unemployment.

        I'm suggesting that if the population reduces and the number of jobs reduce the net impact on employment could be low.

        February 2017 EU youth unemployment:

        Italy - 35.4%

        Spain - 41.5%

        Greece - 45.2%
        Have you considered how a decline in population leads to a decline in demand with leads to a decline in employment? Or are you a believer in the lump of labour fallacy?

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          #34
          Originally posted by BrilloPad View Post
          UK : Lets talk. WE should aim to get the best deal possible for both of us.
          EU : We will only talk about what we want to talk about. Any deal must be approved by 28 individual governments. And in any deal the UK must suffer - punishment for daring to stand up to the 4th Reich.
          Think most people see this as like not paying your book subscription , if you don't pay you don't get your books half price. Would you call Netflix after you stopped paying your subscription and tell them they are punishing you for not providing their services anymore ?

          As for what we pay 9 Billion is a small fraction of our GDP so you have to decide is the trade worth it, already banks are pulling people out of the UK and they are jobs lost not additional jobs created, same goes for other industries that do a lot of trade in the EU.
          Also we are seeing UK companies being rejected for any Tenders for EU civil projects, collaboration projects like fusion, Galileo, Airspace and IT not having UK scientists and engineers being considered where their contracts go over 2019.
          Warning unicorn meat may give you hallucinations

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            #35
            Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
            Have you considered how a decline in population leads to a decline in demand with leads to a decline in employment? Or are you a believer in the lump of labour fallacy?
            Greece is approximately 45%! The country was right royal bent over and given a good seeing to at the behest of German and French banks. It's stuffed for a generation.

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              #36
              Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
              Have you considered how a decline in population leads to a decline in demand with leads to a decline in employment? Or are you a believer in the lump of labour fallacy?
              Oddly we seem to have a long way to fall


              Eurozone unemployment - ECB says jobless figure is wrong | City & Business | Finance | Express.co.uk

              Juncker's job figures blasted as ECB says unemployment in eurozone is TWICE as big

              ECB chief Mario Draghi has dropped a bombshell by declaring unemployment is more than double what official eurozone stats claim.

              The astonishing announcement puts the spotlight on the stagnating European Union and says the real unemployment figures are around 18 per cent rather than the 9.5 per cent rate put out by the bloc.

              The news is set to send shockwaves through the establishment and put increasing pressure on member states to come clean over the real state of the economy.

              The report states: "Despite broad improvements in euro area labour markets since the start of the recovery and a marked decline in unemployment rates across many euro area economies, wage growth remains subdued, suggesting that there is still a considerable degree of labour market slack.”

              Skills shortage bites as fall in unemployment leaves Britain short of engineers to fill new jobs 

              Britain has a shortage of workers across scores of different jobs, from engineering and accounting to hospitality and caring, recruiters have warned.

              The shortage is most intense in the engineering sector which has warned for years that too few trainees are coming through the education system.

              Now that unemployment has fallen to levels not seen in more than a decade, there are fewer people available to take new jobs, according to the Recruitment and Employment Confederation.
              "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

              I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The_Equalizer View Post
                Greece is approximately 45%! The country was right royal bent over and given a good seeing to at the behest of German and French banks. It's stuffed for a generation.
                We all know the unemployment rates elsewhere. This discussion is about the effect on UK employment and unemployment. About UK workers who may lose their jobs. But thank you for your continuing obfuscation.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by motoukenin View Post
                  Think most people see this as like not paying your book subscription , if you don't pay you don't get your books half price. Would you call Netflix after you stopped paying your subscription and tell them they are punishing you for not providing their services anymore ?

                  As for what we pay 9 Billion is a small fraction of our GDP so you have to decide is the trade worth it, already banks are pulling people out of the UK and they are jobs lost not additional jobs created, same goes for other industries that do a lot of trade in the EU.
                  Also we are seeing UK companies being rejected for any Tenders for EU civil projects, collaboration projects like fusion, Galileo, Airspace and IT not having UK scientists and engineers being considered where their contracts go over 2019.
                  If the Book Club starts telling me what to read and do then I might want to leave. Now they have an opportunity to retain my custom in part if they change.

                  Strange when I phone a supplier and say I am going to leave they want to change the deal to keep me especially if I am a significant part of their business, they tend not to invent an imaginary and legally un-enforceable 'Divorce Bill' tell me to pay my Bar Bill and throw me out of the Golf Club.

                  Now if Netflix have a pay as you go option they would be stupid not to offer it. Same for the EU, talking of punishment and other unpleasantness is hardly sensible.
                  "If you didn't do anything that wasn't good for you it would be a very dull life. What are you gonna do? Everything that is pleasant in life is dangerous."

                  I want to see the hand of history on his collar.

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                    We all know the unemployment rates elsewhere. This discussion is about the effect on UK employment and unemployment. About UK workers who may lose their jobs. But thank you for your continuing obfuscation.
                    Begs the question why you replied to PG's post?

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by northernladyuk View Post
                      How many UK workers do you think will end up unemployed?
                      What %age of the soon-to-be unemployed will be UK or EU citizens?

                      If there is an increase in unemployment will it take out UK natives or the new arrivals?

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