[Merged]Brexit stuff (part 2)

[DodgyAgent]

No conflicts or war between member states for 80 years.

Freedom to movement between member states. Work in any EU country tomorrow.

Perhaps you'd prefer bloodshed then the UK would have someone else to sell weapons to other than the Saudis.

You really do need to get a job.

[GB9]

No conflicts or war between member states for 80 years.

Freedom of movement between member states. Work in any EU country tomorrow.

Perhaps you'd prefer bloodshed then the UK would have someone else to sell weapons to other than the Saudis.

What has the EU got to do with conflict? It was set up as a trading organisation. No conflict is down to communication more than anything else.

I can work in most places in the world subject to a few bits of paper. What you are selling is the ability to live anywhere. That generates a whole raft of issues.

[scooterscot]

I don't know why the bremainers have such difficulty with the concept. We voted for a common market then they tried to make it a superstate.

Because you voted for it. You might want to read about the Maastricht Treaty and the Maastricht Rebels for that matter in 93. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht_Rebels

You want to blame someone? Blame your own government!

[scooterscot]

What has the EU got to do with conflict? It was set up as a trading organisation.

Smeg me sideways. It is this type of ignorance to history that is the real threat to the world. Same goes for them Trump voters. History repeating itself. Can we just get it over with?

Here you go: "The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace."

[DodgyAgent]

Smeg me sideways. It is this type of ignorance to history that is the real threat to the world. Same goes for them Trump voters. History repeating itself. Can we just get it over with?

Here you go: "The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace."

"aim"

[vetran]

No conflicts or war between member states for 80 years.

Freedom of movement between member states. Work in any EU country tomorrow.

Perhaps you'd prefer bloodshed then the UK would have someone else to sell weapons to other than the Saudis.

Where is SAS when you need him?

"Correlation does not imply causation"

Many consider nuclear weapons responsible for that. We have not only had no wars in Europe the rest of the major world powers have not had wars with other countries armed with Nukes. Also light guns, munitions & Geurilla tactics have made many wars unwinnable.

The US did Vietnam & Korea and lost both, they were terrified of Russia & China yet did not engage them is this thanks to the EU?

I would remind you that most believe WWI's sanctions caused WWII, post WWII Germany's shame & division put them out of the running for decades, now they are reunified maybe they will be in shape for WWIII?

Also the speed & breadth with which News travels has made war unpalatable for the populace. The war poems of WWI are now replaced by pictures of wounded children burnt by Napalm.

The other thing is trade may have helped stop wars but a superstate is likely to create them notice Russia's recent actions when we impinge on their territory.


If you think we were saved by the EU then PROVE IT not parrot it out.

[PurpleGorilla]

Smeg me sideways. It is this type of ignorance to history that is the real threat to the world. Same goes for them Trump voters. History repeating itself. Can we just get it over with?

Here you go: "The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace."

Nice quote from the Ministry of Truth!

[vetran]

Because you voted for it. You might want to read about the Maastricht Treaty and the Maastricht Rebels for that matter in 93. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht_Rebels

You want to blame someone? Blame your own government!

no the MPs voted for it, they should have held a referendum then. They didn't because they would have lost.

[GB9]

Smeg me sideways. It is this type of ignorance to history that is the real threat to the world. Same goes for them Trump voters. History repeating itself. Can we just get it over with?

Here you go: "The European Union is set up with the aim of ending the frequent and bloody wars between neighbours, which culminated in the Second World War. As of 1950, the European Coal and Steel Community begins to unite European countries economically and politically in order to secure lasting peace."

What absolute cobblers.

The reasons for peace are:
- Realisation that killing millions of people doesn't improve anything
- Vastly improved communication
- Vastly improved weaponry

Your role as mouthpiece for the EU is making you look increasingly out of touch with reality.

[Flashman]

What absolute cobblers.

The reasons for peace are:
- Realisation that killing millions of people doesn't improve anything
- Vastly improved communication
- Vastly improved weaponry

Your role as mouthpiece for the EU is making you look increasingly out of touch with reality.