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The 24 Month Rule in a nutshell
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostBest option is to do what your client is comfortable with. Unless your absolutely sure it won't have any detrimental effect on your gig I wouldn't let the tax situation dictate how I deliver.Comment
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Don't you just love HR
Current client I'm direct with offered a 6 month extension which would take me over the 24 months, agreed to 3 months with the dev mgr to finish on the 30th June 2015 = I can claim expenses for another 3 months before I have to stop. Eventually extension paperwork comes through at the 11th hour, the 30th is a Tuesday so HR have extended the end date to the 3rd July 2015 as it's a Friday and it makes their lives easierComment
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Working from home and occassional travel to other locations
Will the below conditions taken into account for 24 month rule?
1. WFH be considered as another location?
2. Occasional Travel to other locations be taken into account ?
3. Holidays be taken into account ?Last edited by sojan; 29 March 2015, 10:48.Comment
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Originally posted by SlipTheJab View PostCurrent client I'm direct with offered a 6 month extension which would take me over the 24 months, agreed to 3 months with the dev mgr to finish on the 30th June 2015 = I can claim expenses for another 3 months before I have to stop. Eventually extension paperwork comes through at the 11th hour, the 30th is a Tuesday so HR have extended the end date to the 3rd July 2015 as it's a Friday and it makes their lives easierBlog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by sojan View PostWill the below conditions taken into account for 24 month rule?
1. WFH be considered as another location?
2. Occasional Travel to other locations be taken into account ?
3. Holidays be taken into account ?
Look, I gave a concise and usable summary of the rules at the start of this whole thread so we don't have to keep answering questions about how and when it applies. Try reading it properly. Then apply it to your circumstances.Blog? What blog...?Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostActually you already have an expectation that the work will extend over the 24 month limit, so you should stop claiming now. Faffing around with artificial end dates doesn't work.Comment
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Expectations are relevant because that is how the legislation is framed.
now if you plan to refuse the next extension because it means no travel can be claimed fine. If not then you shouldnt be claiming now.
in practical terms you are right. The situation contracturally is a strong pointer. But expectation and intent are what matter in law. Judging those is difficult and a different question.Comment
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Originally posted by malvolio View PostYes, it is your permanent workplace, if you are running a limited. I leave you to work out why that's significant.
Yes. I leave you to work out why but the words "bleedin'" and "obvious" come to mind.
What are holidays...? Why do you think they are relevant...?
Look, I gave a concise and usable summary of the rules at the start of this whole thread so we don't have to keep answering questions about how and when it applies. Try reading it properly. Then apply it to your circumstances..The "true" and "concise" summary is not explaining any of the above questions if the contract doesn't specify a location. Hence i did ask specific questions of how you define a "work place" if working from home, visiting clients and not going to work-place (like holidays) will constitute working at a single location?
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Originally posted by sojan View PostThanks for your "valuable" input and polite gestures !!.The "true" and "concise" summary is not explaining any of the above questions if the contract doesn't specify a location. Hence i did ask specific questions of how you define a "work place" if working from home, visiting clients and not going to work-place (like holidays) will constitute working at a single location?
1. It is only a nutshell explanation, the detail on edge cases is in the rest of this thread or in the various first timer guides listed over there ---> Of even Google it, you will get plenty of advice.
2. Start with understanding what the rule is trying to achieve. Then you will see the difference between a permanent and a temporary workplace and why it is significant. Hint: home is normally your permanent workplace, as I suggested earlier (perhaps a bit too subtly...?)
3. Time is finite. Holidays don't exist. Attendance at the temporary location(s) is what matters. If you're not working, you're not there, are you?
If you are a contractor, that's your job and it's up to you to understand it as best you can. Understanding expenses is a pretty key element of it. WE don't mind answering good questions, basic ones tend to irritate - me, especially, which is why I did the original post - and perhaps ask yourself if you don't really know this area, what else don't you know that you should?Blog? What blog...?Comment
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