No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[OldITGit]

Mind Blowingly Awful

Ive never heard so much hot air in my life, can these mp's not just state their case succinctly rather than filibustering. They will never get round to S58 and the lack of HMRC following protocol. I feel my mp when she said that the Civil Service run the country and that committees were a mere formality was unfortunately correct.

[helen7]

Is there any way to listen from an iphone?

My work computer blocks the link and my iphone it says that it is not supported on mobiles.

[Basher]

No, it appears not. I tried for ages.

Is there any way to listen from an iphone?

My work computer blocks the link and my iphone it says that it is not supported on mobiles.

[Buzby]

No, it appears not. I tried for ages.

you really do not want to listen to this, I am amazed anything gets done.

[OldITGit]

Exactly

you really do not want to listen to this, I am amazed anything gets done.

Hear Hear or rather don't

[the great escape]

Ive never heard so much hot air in my life, can these mp's not just state their case succinctly rather than filibustering. They will never get round to S58 and the lack of HMRC following protocol. I feel my mp when she said that the Civil Service run the country and that committees were a mere formality was unfortunately correct.

You vote for people to represent your interests and what do you get. Turncoats with their own agenda. What a crock. How can Gauke stare at facts, stare at the human statistics and sweep in under the axminister over a sherry. No way.

[smalldog]

you really do not want to listen to this, I am amazed anything gets done.

I dont think anything does get done does it??

[mrkitchen]

ECHR

Even the chairman today is Peter Bone Con Wellingborough who is currently sponsoring the bill for UK withdrawal from ECHR. I listened in this am and could detect very little which would assist us.

Withdrawal from ECHR, any news on where our application is, last I heard we were applying to join PWC application.

[smalldog]

now weve got some Bint repeating the exact same points that geordie idiot was spouting! give me strength, doesnt anyone interject and point out its repeating the same points!!!!

[BrilloPad]

Sorry to barge into the conversation - just got this email from my MPs assistant :-

Dear Mr Pad,



Below is the text of an email I sent to Ed Balls after you came to visit me:



“Dear Ed



I have recently been contacted by a constituent who fears he is being pushed into bankruptcy by HMRC pursuing him for debts they say he owes through their retrospective use of Section 58 of the 2008 Finance Act.



Along with many colleagues in the IT industry my constituent used the S58 scheme post IR35 in 2000. During the period the loophole was open between 1993 and 2007 HMRC made no intimation that they would close the loophole and certainly no suggestion that they would seek to recover money using retrospective legislation.



In 2008 the used the Finance Act to close the loophole including in the legislation moves to allow HMRC to claw back money retrospectively.



My constituent is now facing a demand from HMRC fro £80,000 (£60,000 tax plus £20,000 interest). It has been calculated that over 3,000 people have been penalised retrospectively in this way. Many of these are, like my constituent, facing bankruptcy.



Jane Kennedy now apparently accepts that she did not know that so many people would be affected in this way.



Campaigners are now calling for section 58 to be amended so that it takes effect only from the date that the measure was first announced – budget note 66 on 12 March 2008.



This Act appears to have affected a relatively large number of people who have been caught up by the retrospective nature of the Act which does not seem to have been predicted at the time.



As we introduced this legislation and defeated attempts to stop it being backdated I thought it best to check what our position is now, particularly in the light of the information that Jane Kennedy accepts that it was a mistake. I look forward to hearing from you.



Best wishes



Clive Efford MP”



The reason we have contacted Ed Balls before we go to George Osborne is that he was working at the Treasury at the time. If we can show that there was no intention to use the Act retrospectively then we can put a strong argument to the current Chancellor.



Best wishes



Clive

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I have passed onto the usual suspects.
Brillo