No To Retro Tax – Campaign Against Section 58 Finance Act 2008

[smalldog]

No, MacDougall was only in charge of the investigation. He, along with Brannigan, are in Special Investigations.

The person responsible for BN66 was much higher up the chain:

Simon Davis
Assistant Director
Business International
Litigation Team

HMRC didn't come up with the idea themselves. We understand that it was a Tax QC who suggested it to them as the only way to dig themselves out of the hole they were in.

HMRC deny this but we are sure they were advised that litigation would almost certainly fail.

So let me get this straight, the complaint against HMRC is being looked into by HMRC? I assume NTRT have raised this with the treasury if that is the case as its laughable if that is the process. Unless of course HMRC bod gives a repsonse and a separate impartial body reviews the response.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

So let me get this straight, the complaint against HMRC is being looked into by HMRC? I assume NTRT have raised this with the treasury if that is the case as its laughable if that is the process. Unless of course HMRC bod gives a repsonse and a separate impartial body reviews the response.

Our goal is to take a complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman.

In order to do that, you have to exhaust HMRC's complaints procedure first. Even though complaining to HMRC is obviously a complete waste of time, there is no way to shortcut this.

It is laughable that MacDougall, who presided over the whole fiasco, has responded to the complaint but we'd have got the same BS if someone else in HMRC had responded.

As I say, we have to go through this charade to get it in front of the Ombudsman.

[Acaman]

Simon Davis

No, MacDougall was only in charge of the investigation. He, along with Brannigan, are in Special Investigations.

The person responsible for BN66 was much higher up the chain:

Simon Davis
Assistant Director
Business International
Litigation Team

HMRC didn't come up with the idea themselves. We understand that it was a Tax QC who suggested it to them as the only way to dig themselves out of the hole they were in.

HMRC deny this but we are sure they were advised that litigation would almost certainly fail.

Would this be the same Simon Davis that now works for PWC?

PwC poaches from HMRC

[OnYourBikeGB]

Would this be the same Simon Davis that now works for PWC?

PwC poaches from HMRC

You couldn't make this tulip up, could you? No doubt they've employed him to ensure their clients pay the maximum amount of fair and moral tax.

[travellingknob]

Our goal is to take a complaint to the Parliamentary Ombudsman.

In order to do that, you have to exhaust HMRC's complaints procedure first. Even though complaining to HMRC is obviously a complete waste of time, there is no way to shortcut this.

It is laughable that MacDougall, who presided over the whole fiasco, has responded to the complaint but we'd have got the same BS if someone else in HMRC had responded.

As I say, we have to go through this charade to get it in front of the Ombudsman.

laughable, sad and depressing.
I'm actually glad a QC came up with the idea otherwise it would mean we have to acknowledge someone in HMRC actually has a brain. Just a pitty the QC didn't care what the law actully said and the parlimentary debate behind it (referring to Norman Lamont). Still, no surprise there, QCs are used to challenging the meaning of laws, its how they make their livings. Just normally its a judge who makes the final decision rather than them pulling the rug from underneath you and rewritng history themselves.

[DonkeyRhubarb]

You couldn't make this tulip up, could you? No doubt they've employed him to ensure their clients pay the maximum amount of fair and moral tax.

What's even more ironic is PwC sold the scheme, and defended it in court (Shiner).

They've hired the guy who was responsible for the legislation which shafted their clients.

[Disgusted of Coventry]

You couldn't make this tulip up, could you? No doubt they've employed him to ensure their clients pay the maximum amount of fair and moral tax.

It's unbelievable! No doubt he'll be advising PwC to retrospectively surrender their lawfully obtained possessions.

[smalldog]

What's even more ironic is PwC sold the scheme, and defended it in court (Shiner).

They've hired the guy who was responsible for the legislation which shafted their clients.

Maybe they have recruited him to see if he can suggest HOW they unravel it!

[DonkeyRhubarb]

Maybe they have recruited him to see if he can suggest HOW they unravel it!

We learned recently that PwC are no longer representing clients affected by BN66. The clients are having to go it alone.

However, this may have more to do with PwC wanting to protect their lucrative Government contracts than the fact they hired Davis.

[nevergiveup]

We learned recently that PwC are no longer representing clients affected by BN66. The clients are having to go it alone.

However, this may have more to do with PwC wanting to protect their lucrative Government contracts than the fact they hired Davis.

Maybe the clients they were representing should join the NTRT gang!