Agency PSLs? (Yes agency, not client.)

[Chrisos]

I have been advised that is has been passed onto "legal".

My argument was that they had already done their due diligence when I started the initial contract, and since the situation and players have not changed, surely that state remains as was.

Ever onward.

(And less liabelling please. )

Oh, and for the record, I didn't "roll over" and pay more tax, like I said, I prefer the more creative umbrella schemes, that look for new (and of course legitimate) ways to keep more money in my pocket.

[Denny]

I have been advised that is has been passed onto "legal".

My argument was that they had already done their due diligence when I started the initial contract, and since the situation and players have not changed, surely that state remains as was.

Ever onward.

(And less liabelling please. )

Oh, and for the record, I didn't "roll over" and pay more tax, like I said, I prefer the more creative umbrella schemes, that look for new (and of course legitimate) ways to keep more money in my pocket.

There are one or two good brollies in Panama, so I understand. I think you get to keep 100 per cent of your fees minus the admin cost.

[sidknows]

'I know of at least 3 agencies who now have a "preferred suppliers list" of just about every umbrella you have ever heard of

[Bluebird]

Langstons are registered in Panama.

[Chrisos]

Update...

And so we rumble ever closer to the end of the contract...

Dramatis Personae:
The Client - Wants to renew the contractor.
The Client's external HR - Want to renew the contractor.
The Agency - Wants to renew the contractor. (On their dictated terms.).
The Umbrolly - Wants to renew the contractor.
The Chrisos - Wants to renew.

The client wants me to renew, I want to renew, the client's HR people are happy for me to renew, my brolly have said they will fill out a questionnaire (unequivocally proving they are not a MSC) as they have done for several other agencies, they have said they will legally indemnify the agency against any losses, they have offered their first born as collateral, they have moved heaven, they have moved earth (and probably wind and fire too), they have unfortunately been largely ignored.

And yet the agency still insists that their preferred supplier list is a non-negotiable list of brollies they will work with, and it is either one of those(1), my own limited company(2) or, push off(3)...

It looks Plan Alpha has failed, and a backup plan will have to come into play:

Plan Beta: Approach the client/client’s HR peeps about removing the agency from the loop and finding an alternative agency that is prepared to take a percentage instead without non-negotiable dictation of terms.

Plan Gamma: Go to another client, obviously I have been interviewing in the meantime, (I'd be a fool not to, until something is signed, sealed and delivered) and I'm expecting a couple of offers in the next couple of days.

Plan Delta: Run for Galactic President, then do what the hell I want! (There maybe some small problems with this plan; and it is really more of a longer term plan.)

The sad truth is that, I am happy to stay where I am, but half the joy of a renewal is that it is easy, you sign it and it is done, no need for interviews, or changes to terms and conditions except maybe a bit of half-arsed rate renegotiation, but frankly I've lost the inertia "benefit" of the renewals process, and gained a whole heap of farting about "drawbacks" for good measure.

And now, here I am so very tired of being messed about and generally harassed by the agency, that I'm thinking that moving on, and adding the agency to the personal Chrisos blacklist of timewasters, seems like the option to go for, I’m hoping that Plan Beta is a go, as any more arsing about and I’m off.

I wouldn’t be too happy about leaving the client in the lurch, but I’d be even less happy with a significant pay cut(4) taken just to keep a bunch of legal arses and pushy agents happy.

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Footnotes:
1. Big pay cut. No thanks.
2. Smaller, but still significant pay cut. No thanks.
3. 100% Pay cut, but lots more leisure time. No thanks.
4. Minimum double digits in percentage terms.

[Bluebird]

is the anency Hays ?

[Chrisos]

is the anency Hays ?

Nope, but another ATSCO member.

(Well they tell me they are ASCO members, but I see no logos on their web site, nor are they mentioned on the ATSCO site's list of members either, curious...)

[Pondlife]

Chrisos,

Haven't ploughed through the whole thread but why do you view operating through your own Ltd as taking a pay cut?

But I suppose, how would your Ltd get on the the PSL for the agency?

[NotAllThere]

Chrisos,

Haven't ploughed through the whole thread but why do you view operating through your own Ltd as taking a pay cut?

Because he's using an umbrella company that has some amazing wheeze, that's completely legit, that allows him to take home more money that if he were ltd.

[TheFaQQer]

Because he's using an umbrella company that has some amazing wheeze, that's completely legit, that allows him to take home more money that if he were ltd.

Can I sense the word "dispensation" looming here?