Ref of a good accountant

[RightLaugh]

No we do not charge extra for any other services!

We do all the accounting work including checking your invoices, expenses and ensure that you accounts balance and that nothing has been paid twice (this happens more than you would think). We also check that all your invoices have been paid etc.

Alan

In that case can anyone explain why SJD charge so much more. I know they have offices in London but why pay more for this privilage if we never need to go there.

[Jekyll]

You've just joined to post negetive things against SJD. No-one here's going to fall for that one. Now feck off back to wherever you came from.

Whats your problem, is my quote too close to the truth? or maybe your Simon in disguise.

This is a forum and as such people use it to express their opinions which is all I have done. If you have a problem with that why don't you "feck off".


I'm looking for an accountant that will do a job at a competitive price and when I look on this site most say SJD. But I personally know at least three individuals that will disagree with that so I am not going to use them as a matter of principle. Maybe they are good but £100 a month is a lot to pay for next to nothing in return so I'm going to use one that I don't hear bad thing about.

[Old Greg]

Whats your problem, is my quote too close to the truth? or maybe your Simon in disguise.

This is a forum and as such people use it to express their opinions which is all I have done. If you have a problem with that why don't you "feck off".


I'm looking for an accountant that will do a job at a competitive price and when I look on this site most say SJD. But I personally know at least three individuals that will disagree with that so I am not going to use them as a matter of principle. Maybe they are good but £100 a month is a lot to pay for next to nothing in return so I'm going to use one that I don't hear bad thing about.

The problem is that there are a number of people including you (or probably one person, with multiple IDs perhaps one of SJD's rivals) who have suddenly joined solely to post unsubstantiated anti-SJD cr@p. Some of us who are happy customers of SJD's may find it unpalatable that you are trying to undermine an honest business that provides us with a good service.

[spenj]

The problem is that there are a number of people including you (or probably one person, with multiple IDs perhaps one of SJD's rivals) who have suddenly joined solely to post unsubstantiated anti-SJD cr@p. Some of us who are happy customers of SJD's may find it unpalatable that you are trying to undermine an honest business that provides us with a good service.

This old chestnut about SJDs rivals posting all the negative feedback is wearing a little thin. More likely Jekyll is a genuine poster who is expressing his opinion based on the experiences of his contacts. (It certainly ties in with what I have experienced and heard from colleagues of mine).

Personally, I find the posters who immediately leap to SJDs defence to be more suspicious. Is it really likely that clients have such passionate loyalty to their accountants?

And before my identity is questioned let me just re-iterate that I am exactly what I have said I am - a client of SJD who has found the service to be very disappointing.

And before Simon jumps in to say that I didn't email my grievances to him when he asked on a previous thread - true, I didn't because I have seen the response that one of my colleagues received when he did take the time to email Simon. Suffice to say that the public persona and the private reality were too very different things!

My only motivation in posting this is to warn prospective clients that they shouldn't believe all the PR surrounding SJD. Ultimately they will make their own decision about what they believe to be true.

[chubba]

Hmmm, you don't think that SJD having 6,000 customers might mean that some on this board are happy with their relationship?

£100 a month is not far off what I pay my high street accountant to do the same service for me so to pay slightly more for a specialist contractor account seems fine to me. I have multiple income streams so contracts and IR35 are not such an issue for me so quite OK with my high street accountant but if I was contracting as a lot of the people on this forum are then I can see why someone would want a specialist.

I have had a lot of advice from Simon, Alan and Darren over the years through this forum and would defend any of them. I have also seen a lot of cr4p on this place the last few weeks as well. To say a mate had something in an email that put you off the service is a bit lame to be honest, no real point being made as to what was bad or anything. Unsubstantiated comments is what the papers might call it I guess

Do you have any understanding of the market place or are you a newbie? Do you not understand what has happened recently regarding MSCs and why the main contractor accountants may have been a little busy recently? I am sure all companies that get to the size of NW, SJD etc that some service issues may crop up from time to time? I know when and mrs chubba first sprogged up some of my clients got an appalling service for a month or three while we adjusted. Not the best example but you know what I mean!

[spenj]

Hmmm, you don't think that SJD having 6,000 customers might mean that some on this board are happy with their relationship?

£100 a month is not far off what I pay my high street accountant to do the same service for me so to pay slightly more for a specialist contractor account seems fine to me. I have multiple income streams so contracts and IR35 are not such an issue for me so quite OK with my high street accountant but if I was contracting as a lot of the people on this forum are then I can see why someone would want a specialist.

I have had a lot of advice from Simon, Alan and Darren over the years through this forum and would defend any of them. I have also seen a lot of cr4p on this place the last few weeks as well. To say a mate had something in an email that put you off the service is a bit lame to be honest, no real point being made as to what was bad or anything. Unsubstantiated comments is what the papers might call it I guess

Do you have any understanding of the market place or are you a newbie? Do you not understand what has happened recently regarding MSCs and why the main contractor accountants may have been a little busy recently? I am sure all companies that get to the size of NW, SJD etc that some service issues may crop up from time to time? I know when and mrs chubba first sprogged up some of my clients got an appalling service for a month or three while we adjusted. Not the best example but you know what I mean!

Yes, I'm sure some SJD clients are happy with their relationship, it obviously depends on the individual accountant they are assigned. But a growing number seem to be unhappy with the service they are receiving and that ties in with my experience.

I didn't say 'a mate had something in an email that put me off the service'. I said the reason I haven't emailed Simon about the poor service I have received is that I have seen his response to my colleagues email about his dissatisfaction. I obviously can't give details but it involved blatant errors rather than just poor service. Simon didn't address any of the problems.

So if you sign up with SJD and happen to get one of the less competent accountants, then, from what I have seen, don't rely on Simon to sort out your problems.

And, yes I do understand the market place. SJD say that their Client/Accountant ratio will be maintained at a constant level to ensure no loss of personal service. If they haven't managed that because of the influx of new clients then they should be reducing the monthly charge until they can provide an acceptable service.

[simondolan]

So why can't you give details? Show us all what I am supposed to have written.

Of course you won't, because as with your other persona's that have been created solely to post libellous remarks about us just recently, you are simply one of the competitors with an acute lack of imagination and business acumen.

I will have these IP addresses traced and you can look forward to proving your unfounded accusations in court.

I obviously can't give details but it involved blatant errors rather than just poor service. Simon didn't address any of the problems.

[RightLaugh]

It's all gone quiet, It's all gone quiet, it's all gone quiet over there and there and there.

Still haven't got an answer to my question some posts ago.
NW charge £720+VAT = £850 p/a.
SJD charge £100 pm = £1,200 p/a

£350 diff. Could pay for PCG and some insurance.

Why is there such a big difference? There must be a reason.

[monkeygeorge]

You also get free Ltd company setup with NW.

6000 clients is surely due to successful marketing. Everyone here has heard of them and they're huge, so people assume it's a safe bet and worth paying extra because of this. Just my theory.

[RightLaugh]

You also get free Ltd company setup with NW.

6000 clients is surely due to successful marketing. Everyone here has heard of them and they're huge, so people assume it's a safe bet and worth paying extra because of this. Just my theory.

that's true. It costs £150 to do that with SJD. So in the 1st year SJD are actually £500 more expensive.
Why do they charge so much to set up the company?