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    #11
    Originally posted by quackhandle View Post

    They are only canvassing potential 9 week availability however I am putting together my reasons now.

    Cheers.

    qh
    What happens if someone says, I think the justice system is a joke and I want zero involvement in your pathetic circus? What can they do? Force you to attend knowing you will disrupt and undermine wherever you can? Or just accept its better to pick someone else.

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      #12
      Originally posted by escapeUK View Post

      What happens if someone says, I think the justice system is a joke and I want zero involvement in your pathetic circus? What can they do? Force you to attend knowing you will disrupt and undermine wherever you can? Or just accept its better to pick someone else.
      It's a duty and you can be fined £1000 for not attending or ignoring the summons. They'll take arguments like you know someone involved in the case and other work related ones to get you off but you could still get called up in the future. Lying on reasons not to attend will also land you a fine. The comment you said above doesn't wash either.

      Conscientious objection to serving on a jury

      You don't have the right to refuse to serve on a jury on the grounds that you object to jury service in principle. If you want to object to serving on the jury because of the subject matter of the case, you can only be excused at the court's discretion.
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        #13
        Originally posted by northernladuk View Post

        It's a duty and you can be fined £1000 for not attending or ignoring the summons. They'll take arguments like you know someone involved in the case and other work related ones to get you off but you could still get called up in the future. Lying on reasons not to attend will also land you a fine. The comment you said above doesn't wash either.
        I have no duties to a establishment that tore up the societal contract we once had. These things only work if people go along with them, not if they are determined to be ungovernable. £1000 fine? That's much less than I'd earn in the 2 weeks trials tend to take. Though first I'd go mental health sick note route. Sorry you're honor. Another 9 month delay to reschedule? Awww shame.

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          #14
          Originally posted by escapeUK View Post

          What happens if someone says, I think the justice system is a joke and I want zero involvement in your pathetic circus? What can they do? Force you to attend knowing you will disrupt and undermine wherever you can? Or just accept its better to pick someone else.
          What is that expression? F**k around and find out.

          Saying that my brother-in-law got selected for JS and he said his religious beliefs (Christian) would not permit him to pass judgement on any other person. He was not selected.

          Seeing how many people were left (over 100) after not being selected for any trial last Thursday the legal bods make sure they have far more people to pick from that there are trials for any given day.

          qh
          He had a negative bluety on a quackhandle and was quadraspazzed on a lifeglug.

          I look forward to your all knowing and likely sarcastic and unhelpful reply.

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            #15
            Originally posted by quackhandle View Post

            What is that expression? F**k around and find out.

            Saying that my brother-in-law got selected for JS and he said his religious beliefs (Christian) would not permit him to pass judgement on any other person. He was not selected.

            Seeing how many people were left (over 100) after not being selected for any trial last Thursday the legal bods make sure they have far more people to pick from that there are trials for any given day.

            qh
            Exactly. Why would they try and force someone who doesn't want to do it rather than just use another mug off the list?

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              #16
              Originally posted by escapeUK View Post

              I have no duties to a establishment that tore up the societal contract we once had. These things only work if people go along with them, not if they are determined to be ungovernable. £1000 fine? That's much less than I'd earn in the 2 weeks trials tend to take. Though first I'd go mental health sick note route. Sorry you're honor. Another 9 month delay to reschedule? Awww shame.
              Regardless of the state of the social contract, if you were facing a jury trial, I bet you'd prefer a balanced jury of people from all parts of society, not just those who either can't get out of it or have absolutely nothing better to do with their time. Perhaps you could view it more as an opportunity to help someone else get a fair trial and less as being a dutiful vassal of The Establishment.


              The cost of that rescheduling comes out of your taxes and means that a potentially innocent defendant has the case hanging over them for another 9 months, possibly being on remand during that time, all because you choose to stick a finger up to "The Man" by not helping that person get a swifter verdict. Meanwhile you don't see the irony of your complaint about the breakdown of the social contract.
              Last edited by Snooky; 20 May 2024, 10:51.

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