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Pro-rata NI for director appointed at the end of tax year

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    Pro-rata NI for director appointed at the end of tax year

    I'd like to appoint my spouse as a second director of my ltd. She will not be a shareholder. She has no other income. I'd like to draw her salary in a legal and tax efficient way.

    Question is about timing of appointment in light of pro-rata NI regulations

    According to: https://assets.publishing.service.go.../CA44_2017.pdf directors appointed during the year have pro-rata NI thresholds.
    NIC drops from 12% to only 2% above UEL (Upper Earnings Limit).

    Spouse will receive remuneration of £11,850.

    If she is appointed at the end of tax year, according to pro-rata rules (check table on p 27 of the above publication), her UEL level will be much lower. In extreme situation, if she is appointed at the end of March, her UEL level would be only £866 and her PT (Primary Threshold) only £157.

    This means should would pay very minimal NIC on £11,850, namely £305 for this tax year: £85 (on the rate of 12%) and 220 (on the rate of 2%).

    If she was appointed earlier, let's say on 1 January, according to the aforementioned table her UEL level would be higher than her annual remuneration (UEL - £12,116) and most of the salary would be NI'd on 12% due to pro-rated low PT level of £2,198. This mean she would pay significantly higher NIC on the same remuneration of £11,850, namely £1,158.

    This is much higher than my NIC which is £411 for the same annual remuneration (because I was appointed before start of the tax year).

    This means that by delaying appointment as a director by less than 3 months, she would save £853 on NIC, while earning the same, tax-free remuneration in current tax year.

    Am I missing something here?
    Would the Tax Man leave this kind of opportunity for Contractors, where clearly weekly tables in the document posted above are created to ensure directors appointed throughout the year are treated fairly?

    #2
    What is she going to do to earn this salary?
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      #3
      Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
      What is she going to do to earn this salary?
      Bear the legal responsibility of being a director?

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        #4
        Are you proposing to pay her £11850 in March? or 1/12th of 11850 in March?

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          #5
          Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
          What is she going to do to earn this salary?
          zzzz

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            #6
            Originally posted by pr1 View Post
            zzzz
            (yawn)
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              #7
              Originally posted by pr1 View Post
              Are you proposing to pay her £11850 in March? or 1/12th of 11850 in March?
              £11,850 in March.
              If it was 1/12th then of course effect of pro-rata NIC would be “equalised”, and my question wouldn’t be valid.
              Last edited by Contrator; 23 January 2019, 14:54.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Contrator View Post
                £11,850 in March.
                If she's only been a director for 2 months how can you pay her a full year's wage?
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                  #9
                  Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
                  What is she going to do to earn this salary?
                  It’s not a salary. It’s director’s remuneration for accepting legal responsibilities of being director, optimising its tax strategy, office, bookkeeping etc. Does director compensation have to be time-proportional?
                  Last edited by Contrator; 23 January 2019, 16:13.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Contrator View Post
                    It’s not a salary. It’s director’s remuneration for accepting legal responsibilities of being director, optimising its tax strategy, office, bookkeeping etc. Does director compensation have to be time-proportional?
                    To avoid it looking like you are just taking the piss and driving your company for tax and not business reasons yes. Paying 11k for the last 2 months and then 11k for the whole 12 months next year surely has to fall in to the Aggressive avoidance rules. OK TCP makes the point about legal responsibilities but honestly, what a crock. Your wife won't touch your company again ever... 11k for 2 months shouldering responsibilities? Some contractors get close to that for not only shouldering the responsibilities of a director and putting 40 days work in.

                    It’s not a salary. It’s director’s remuneration for accepting legal responsibilities of being director, optimising its tax strategy, office, bookkeeping etc. Does director compensation have to be time-proportional?
                    It's not?

                    I'd like to appoint my spouse as a second director of my ltd. She will not be a shareholder. She has no other income. I'd like to draw her salary in a legal and tax efficient way.

                    But cool story bro. And 5k a month for doing that?
                    Last edited by northernladuk; 23 January 2019, 16:20.
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