No To Retro Tax - Ongoing battle against S58 FA2008

[flamel]

He's just started his Friday shift at HMRC ...

at the Social Media desk

[eek]

He's just started his Friday shift at HMRC ...

Yep and he's bright enough to know that they have possibly screwed up with George when it hits the tribunal....

[nevergiveup]

Yep and he's bright enough to know that they have possibly screwed up with George when it hits the tribunal....

Talking of which the weather is sunny so sea will be calm - hopefully D-Day soon!!

[DotasScandal]

What happened to KNIGHTRK's post? lol. Guess he just joined NTRT.

He visited www.dotas-scandal.org and understood the error in his ways

[nevergiveup]

3 Years ago.....

Wasn't it around 3 years ago (give or take a couple of days) NTRT was first announced?

I can't believe how quickly time has passed considering we have this heavy load to bear each and every day!

Without NTRT (and DR/Santa) who know's where I'd be right now....

Wouldn't it be ironic if today was the day after 3 years we finally start to put this to bed!

Anyway just wanted to say a big thank you to everyone at and in NTRT

THANK YOU!

NGU

[elpinar]

So here's a thing.

I've so far received two warning letters for the same APNs.

As said previously they changed the wording between the letter - no doubt for "clarification purposes".

Anyway, if this is a legally enforceable penalty then what if I don't ever receive the actual APN letter? Someone else mentioned that he'd been given 1-6 weeks on the warning letter but it hasn't yet arrived passed the 6 weeks.

What if the majority of us don't receive the APN letters?

Can they still legally impose penalties on us if we haven't received the letters?



I thought that debt collecting companies had to prove that they had served the debt notice.

If you havent had an apn - you havent had an APN .... Period.
Not complicated - till you get one with the date it has to be paid on it, its as if you have had nothing

or are you really sayiny, how do you know you havent been sent one that didnt arrive?

[BrilloPad]

Indeed sir. What if they claim they have sent them to people but those people didn't receive them.

How can the penalties be legal?

Unless of coarse they are being sent recorded.

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[Retro]

I was sent a pre-apn letter warning me to expect the apn in 1-8 weeks. The 8 weeks have passed, so I rang HMRC to make sure that it hadn't gone astray and they said that it hadn't yet been sent. The wheels turn slowly, if at all.

[GripRacing]

I was sent a pre-apn letter warning me to expect the apn in 1-8 weeks. The 8 weeks have passed, so I rang HMRC to make sure that it hadn't gone astray and they said that it hadn't yet been sent. The wheels turn slowly, if at all.

Wish they'd turned slowly for me.

Got my warning letter, then the APN 10 days later

[lucozade]

I was sent a pre-apn letter warning me to expect the apn in 1-8 weeks. The 8 weeks have passed, so I rang HMRC to make sure that it hadn't gone astray and they said that it hadn't yet been sent. The wheels turn slowly, if at all.

Why chase them?

Surely they can't enforce penalties if they have no official record that you received it.