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    Default HMRC Enquiries: Bedouin/Redstone

    Brief update, on Friday I received a check of self assessment for the tax year that included the brief spell with bedouin (redstone), I have discussed this with bedouin (Michelle booth) who have provided a stock response form to reply with. Again reiterating their stance that they are fully hmrc compliant. Oddly enough even though I have received no demand my accountant has stated in their position they would opt to contact hmrc and settle regardless

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    I've split this post from the original thread which can be found here.

    http://forums.contractoruk.com/accou...solutions.html

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    Apologies for taking this one (slightly) off topic, but does anyone know if Bedouin have been operating the same 'solution' over the last five/six years or so ?

    I have a mate who's been using them for about 2 years now and I've been trying to talk him off it but he's firmly in the 'I've been using them for x months and not had any problems' mindset. A quick look on their website now seems to suggest that they are just a brolly solution, but I'm guessing that's not the full story. Any Bedouin long term clients advise ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by TestMangler View Post
    Apologies for taking this one (slightly) off topic, but does anyone know if Bedouin have been operating the same 'solution' over the last five/six years or so ?

    I have a mate who's been using them for about 2 years now and I've been trying to talk him off it but he's firmly in the 'I've been using them for x months and not had any problems' mindset. A quick look on their website now seems to suggest that they are just a brolly solution, but I'm guessing that's not the full story. Any Bedouin long term clients advise ?
    They call themselves 'strategic wealth managers'. Get your mate to mail me and I'll explain the pain of these 'umbrellas'
    Are they related to these guys?
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    They've taken a huge volunteers of calls the last few days apparently, they have discussed it with their "tax counsel" and feel the standard letter they are distributing to those affected are sufficient for the moment. When I stated my accountants advised me to offer to settle they did nothing to dissuade me, merely state it's up to me if I want to admit liability

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    That should read volume of calls, not volunteers

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    The Bedouin name has a long history of woes behind it, CUK has several threads on the subject, they make some pretty scary reading.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jbryce View Post
    They call themselves 'strategic wealth managers'. Get your mate to mail me and I'll explain the pain of these 'umbrellas'
    Are they related to these guys?
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    Thanks for that. Appreciated !

    He's not a member on here so will try to talk him into joining to contact you.

    He's so firmly in the 'fingers in the ears, I can't hear you' camp, he's beginning to annoy me
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    Quote Originally Posted by TestMangler View Post
    Thanks for that. Appreciated !

    He's not a member on here so will try to talk him into joining to contact you.

    He's so firmly in the 'fingers in the ears, I can't hear you' camp, he's beginning to annoy me
    You might perhaps want to point out that it will take a few years before he finally finds out it's very bad. The other thing to point out is that HMRC will definitely demand the tax eventually and he'll have to take the case to court.

    But probably he'll carry on anyway.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlasterBates View Post
    You might perhaps want to point out that it will take a few years before he finally finds out it's very bad. The other thing to point out is that HMRC will definitely demand the tax eventually and he'll have to take the case to court.

    But probably he'll carry on anyway.
    The point is that some of these schemes may have been effective, and if they still are they won't be for long.
    Grandfathering is about to go, the GAAR will catch up with the non - DOTAS ones post 2013.

    Really - post 2013 there is no excuse for anyone to be in these schemes.

    Arrangements entered into on or after 17 July that have a main purpose of obtaining a tax advantage, and which are "abusive", can be challenged by HMRC under the new general anti-abuse rule ('GAAR'). They will be.

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