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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by lucyclarityumbrella View Post
    I was told by HMRC following the introduction into the Public Sector...
    "anyone deemed inside IR35 is highly unlikely to pass an SDC test, as such no expenses would be allowable."
    Claiming they've not give a determination and it's a blanket ban is tantamount to the same thing.

    So you are hanging all your hopes on passing SDC when you will not.

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  • northernladuk
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    Originally posted by jlcook99 View Post
    I’ll take that as an apology
    You are asking a bunch of random contractors questions and then showing your arse when someone gives you (possibly) incorrect answer? You are gonna be popular on here.

    If you want expert opinion then **** off and ring round the brollies. Don't come on here looking for apologies from people who are trying to help you for free. Pillock

    Are you gonna apologise to us for posting this in the wrong area of the forums? Should have been in the umbrella section? No? didn't think so.
    Last edited by northernladuk; 18 February 2021, 17:41.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by jlcook99 View Post
    I’ll take that as an apology
    Why should I apologise for telling you that the umbrella company is talking out of their arse based on the information I've been given directly from HMRC.

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  • jlcook99
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Let's wait until the internal HMRC guidance appears in April then shall we.

    I have my advice (from HMRC directly) you have the opinion of someone working at an umbrella.

    Now it's possible that you may be allowed to claim expenses but it's equally possible that HMRC will disallow them and seek the unpaid tax back - so I would factor that in before thinking everything is good.
    I’ll take that as an apology

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by jlcook99 View Post
    Like I’ve already said I’ve had no determination. The client has decided to stop engaging anyone through a PSC. You are wrong. If you can demonstrate you aren’t subject to supervision, direction or control then you can continue to claim limited expenses into the new tax year.
    Let's wait until the internal HMRC guidance appears in April then shall we.

    I have my advice (from HMRC directly) you have the opinion of someone working at an umbrella.

    Now it's possible that you may be allowed to claim expenses but it's equally possible that HMRC will disallow them and seek the unpaid tax back - so I would factor that in before thinking everything is good.

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  • jlcook99
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    HMRC regards an inside IR35 determination by a client as confirmation that you subject to SDC and therefore cannot claim expenses.

    Sadly that was in a meeting with HMRC so I don't have a link to the guidance in HMRC's manual to hand.

    But given that I led the fight to stop expenses being imposed on PSCs yes I do know what I'm talking about.

    The only unknown here is how HMRC will regard expenses where blanket bans have been used.

    Like I’ve already said I’ve had no determination. The client has decided to stop engaging anyone through a PSC. You are wrong. If you can demonstrate you aren’t subject to supervision, direction or control then you can continue to claim limited expenses into the new tax year.

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  • eek
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    Originally posted by jlcook99 View Post
    Yes they are if you are outside of SDC. Is that an apology you are offering? ������
    HMRC regards an inside IR35 determination by a client as confirmation that you subject to SDC and therefore cannot claim expenses.

    Sadly that was in a meeting with HMRC so I don't have a link to the guidance in HMRC's manual to hand - although equally that's not surprising as it ain't April yet.

    But given that I led the fight to stop expenses being imposed on PSCs yes I do know what I'm talking about.

    The only unknown here is how HMRC will regard expenses where blanket bans have been used but I would expect blanket ban to be regarded as an inside determination.
    Last edited by eek; 18 February 2021, 14:12.

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  • jlcook99
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Is today April 6th 2021?

    Ask them if that is valid after the forthcoming changes (hint as I've said in every post so far - it isn't).
    Yes they are if you are outside of SDC. Is that an apology you are offering? ?

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  • eek
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    Is today April 6th 2021?

    Ask them if that is valid after the forthcoming changes (hint as I've said in every post so far - it isn't).

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  • jlcook99
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    Originally posted by eek View Post
    Doesn't make any difference under the new rules - you aren't getting expenses.
    Umbrella Company Business Costs & Expenses Explained

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