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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostLooking for a new brolly now and noticed a lot of them are still saying "you might be able to get travelling expenses".
NB The mileage expenses were on top of my daily rate, i.e. this didn't reduce the amount of tax/NI that I paid.
I think that NLUK is correct: the umbrella has chosen their words carefully, to say something that is technically true, but potentially misleading.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by lucyclarityumbrella View PostSurprised????? Honestly????Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
Which the less scrupulous umbrellas are using as a sales tactic to get clueless contractors interested?Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by lucyclarityumbrella View Post
So my conversation with HMRC back when IR35 came into the public sector was along these lines...
If inside IR35, likelihood is that the contractor would fail an SDC test (not that an official test actually exists), on a rare occasion that the end client would declare that the contractor is not under SDC, then the contractor "may" be able to claim these back via self assessment at the end of the year.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by eek View PostYep - if the contract is outside IR35 and you are not subject to SDC and wish to use an umbrella then you could claim expenses.
If inside IR35, likelihood is that the contractor would fail an SDC test (not that an official test actually exists), on a rare occasion that the end client would declare that the contractor is not under SDC, then the contractor "may" be able to claim these back via self assessment at the end of the year.
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Originally posted by eek View Post
Yep - if the contract is outside IR35 and you are not subject to SDC and wish to use an umbrella then you could claim expenses.
However, the umbrellas that push expenses don't use the outside distinction and have a questionnaire that is surprisingly easy to pass given the hints they provide...
Sane umbrellas won't touch the idea with a barge-pole as HMRC investigations aren't fun and will result in a large cost even if you are 100% in the right.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by northernladuk View Post
You might not but there are situations where an outside gig might be run through a brolly. People that can't set up a LTD, single engagement where LTD isn't worthwhile, someone that's MVL'd and can't use a LTD for the next two years etc.
I see Eek's comment and I am afraid to ask but I will. Isn't there certain situations linked to SDC where expenses 'might' be possible and all the umbrella are doing are using the possibility in rare circumstances as an excuse to be very liberal with their sales pitch? Is it not true a few people 'might' be able to claim it but it's misleading to use it in general documentation/sales pitches?
However, the umbrellas that push expenses don't use the outside distinction and have a questionnaire that is surprisingly easy to pass given the hints they provide...
Sane umbrellas won't touch the idea with a barge-pole as HMRC investigations aren't fun and will result in a large cost even if you are 100% in the right.Leave a comment:
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Originally posted by psychocandy View PostLooking for a new brolly now and noticed a lot of them are still saying "you might be able to get travelling expenses".
Having been on an inside role for the last 4 years this is news to me....
But reading the above, if its deemed inside by the client then no expenses anyway. I don't get it - if it was outside I wouldnt be using a brolly in the first place!
I see Eek's comment and I am afraid to ask but I will. Isn't there certain situations linked to SDC where expenses 'might' be possible and all the umbrella are doing are using the possibility in rare circumstances as an excuse to be very liberal with their sales pitch? Is it not true a few people 'might' be able to claim it but it's misleading to use it in general documentation/sales pitches?Leave a comment:
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