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The PS, IR35 and GCloud
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Originally posted by nucastle View Postthere is nothing secret other than knowing how the game works.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by eek View PostAnd? Given that there is / appears to be a crack down on pulling those tricks (its explicitly included within the new questions) does it matter?
You either play the games and jump through the hoops your customers want you to pull or you don't... One way may get you a lot of work, the other won't....Comment
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Originally posted by jonnyboy View PostEek, which question is that exactly? I did not spot it in the code.
employees, already known third party suppliers, other I can't remember what all the options were and what question it is....merely at clientco for the entertainmentComment
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digital-outcomes-and-specialists-2-final-framework-agreement.pdf
This one presumably.
So to paraphrase the clause I'm looking at, you have to supply the offered services yourself, and not sub contract, unless the buyer has agreed to the supplier subcontracting the work. Essentially what eek said is being cracked down on.Last edited by nucastle; 12 December 2016, 11:58.Comment
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostDigital outcomes isn't the silver bullet out of all this mess though is it. Some of the guys here are swanning around telling other they are on it and they are alright now. I despair.
I'm not sure that will help if some ps manager is filling out the new RSS tool and starts answering yes to SDC type Qs.....Comment
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I'm getting agents ringing me about HMRC jobs and stating the same, yet the manner in which the contractor delivers the services is exactly the same regardless of whether you are on DOS/CL1/G.Cloud etc etc - you are a contractor embedded in an agile team. The framework you got in on is of no interest to anyone actually involved with projects, nor is it of those doing the paperwork.Comment
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Originally posted by nucastle View PostI'm getting agents ringing me about HMRC jobs and stating the same, yet the manner in which the contractor delivers the services is exactly the same regardless of whether you are on DOS/CL1/G.Cloud etc etc - you are a contractor embedded in an agile team. The framework you got in on is of no interest to anyone actually involved with projects, nor is it of those doing the paperwork.'CUK forum personality of 2011 - Winner - Yes really!!!!Comment
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Originally posted by nucastle View PostI'm getting agents ringing me about HMRC jobs and stating the same, yet the manner in which the contractor delivers the services is exactly the same regardless of whether you are on DOS/CL1/G.Cloud etc etc - you are a contractor embedded in an agile team. The framework you got in on is of no interest to anyone actually involved with projects, nor is it of those doing the paperwork.
They expect a BOS and work done, they have no interest how you have arrived there.The Chunt of Chunts.Comment
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Originally posted by youngguy View PostI've heard that same and it is worth noting that no one (eg HMRC) has said there is a direct relationship between the framework and the inside)outside debate . People are assuming that DOS = outside along with G Cloud as it is deliverable based.
I'm not sure that will help if some ps manager is filling out the new RSS tool and starts answering yes to SDC type Qs.....Comment
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