Public sector IR35 consultation launched

[DotasScandal]

Looks like the MoD are ignoring the IR35 consultation and applying the new rules immediately.

Lol. I don't even know why they bother with these mock "consultations" anymore. Who are they fooling? It's just plain silly now.

[Ketto]

Are you guys agency or direct with MOD?

[mudskipper]

Looks like the MoD are ignoring the IR35 consultation and applying the new rules immediately. We have to provide proof of full tax and NI paid on payments received or contracts will be terminated and details passed to HMRC. Independent contract reviews are no longer accepted as proof of compliance.

The proposal in the consultation is that the agency (or client if you're direct) will use the ESI tool to determine IR35 status, then deduct the tax and NI before paying yourCo the remainder.

Is this requirement coming from the agent or client?

If you're an IPSE member, please do respond to James's request above with your details.

[malvolio]

The proposal in the consultation is that the agency (or client if you're direct) will use the ESI tool to determine IR35 status, then deduct the tax and NI before paying yourCo the remainder.

Is this requirement coming from the agent or client?

If you're an IPSE member, please do respond to James's request above with your details.

And if you're not (in which case, why not?!) I'm sure mudskipper will do it for you anyway...

[westtester]

The proposal in the consultation is that the agency (or client if you're direct) will use the ESI tool to determine IR35 status, then deduct the tax and NI before paying yourCo the remainder.

Is this requirement coming from the agent or client?

If you're an IPSE member, please do respond to James's request above with your details.

Apparently this is coming direct from the MoD and applies to all off-payroll appointees. We have to show that we've already paid full tax and NI on monies received regardless of any previous contract reviews, or indicate what deemed payment will be made in future. Unless your contract is 6 months or less in which case these rules don't apply.

I'm aware there is an ongoing consultation in place but this isn't being considered here. We seem to be defaulted inside IR35.

[GB9]

Apparently this is coming direct from the MoD and applies to all off-payroll appointees. We have to show that we've already paid full tax and NI on monies received regardless of any previous contract reviews, or indicate what deemed payment will be made in future. Unless your contract is 6 months or less in which case these rules don't apply.

I'm aware there is an ongoing consultation in place but this isn't being considered here. We seem to be defaulted inside IR35.

Does your contract allow this?

[MrMarkyMark]

Apparently this is coming direct from the MoD and applies to all off-payroll appointees. We have to show that we've already paid full tax and NI on monies received regardless of any previous contract reviews, or indicate what deemed payment will be made in future. Unless your contract is 6 months or less in which case these rules don't apply.

I'm aware there is an ongoing consultation in place but this isn't being considered here. We seem to be defaulted inside IR35.

Hopefully you are all going to walk out ASAP.

I'm sure the Indian outsourcers that replace you all will pay the correct amount of tax

[northernladuk]

Apparently this is coming direct from the MoD and applies to all off-payroll appointees. We have to show that we've already paid full tax and NI on monies received regardless of any previous contract reviews, or indicate what deemed payment will be made in future. Unless your contract is 6 months or less in which case these rules don't apply.

I'm aware there is an ongoing consultation in place but this isn't being considered here. We seem to be defaulted inside IR35.

And you are still there?

[westtester]

And you are still there?

Not for much longer, like pretty much all the contractors here.

[northernladuk]

Hopefully you are all going to walk out ASAP.

I'm sure the Indian outsourcers that replace you all will pay the correct amount of tax

Doubt that will happen in the Public Sector..... That said reading the consultation even they are going to struggle with this one as per one of the examples where everyone in the consultancy supplied has to be tested.