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    #21
    Originally posted by d000hg View Post
    Yes but most of the time it will be right.

    I don't think the argument is even if a 256Gb SSD + 1Tb spinny drive is better than a 1Tb hybrid. It's if a 1Tb hybrid is the best option for the price. If you buy a 16Gb SSD your approach simply won't work because you won't ever move things between disks and it will.

    It's a compromise by design, but for instance in a MacMini or most laptops you can't physically fit two drives in.
    In that case I would agree, it is probably a better tradeoff, however for me the ideal was a decent size SSD for daily stuff.

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      #22
      SSD prices are continuing to tumble too though.

      £160 (what Apple want to upgrade you from 1Gb 5400rpm -> 256SSD) will buy you a 512Gb SSD these days. I reckon 512Gb might be all I need, although to run both my Windows and Mac systems on one machine might make things a bit tighter.
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        #23
        Originally posted by sal View Post
        Hybrids (not just SSD/HDD but in general) are always a compromise - you get some of the both worlds, but it's never the best of them. So you end up with a sub-par SSD, faster than HDD but 1/2 of the performance of the top pure SSDs. And HDD with a limited capacity and again sub-par performance.

        My personal setup involves 1x256GB Samsung 840 Pro (one of the best SSDs in both performance and £/GB) and 3x3TB Seagate Baracuda 7200 HDDs (again one of the best HDDs in both performance and £/GB)

        And it's not like i have to constantly shuffle files around on a daily basis in order to keep it optimized - it's straight-forward is the best way to do it even on pure HDD - OS+Applications+Games go to the C:\ that is the SSD, Downloads,Music,Video,.ISO etc go to the D:\ drive

        Performance wise beats any Hybrid



        I meant why would you need the performance gain offered by SSD (hybrid or native) at a price premium on a NAS. By definition NAS is for storage of data and favor reliability and cost/TB, not for constant operations with data that demand performance - that's SAN.
        Its to be used to provide Datastores to my vSphere 5.5 environment at home. It isn't going to be used as C or D drive....NAS devices have moved on somewhat, so no need for a SAN, per se, where NFS will suffice.
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          #24
          Do people still do SSD cashing?
          I just use a SSD for the OS and Run everything else from my WD reds.

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            #25
            someone did some testing, seems to recommend 2 drives using Fusion software.

            Hybrid drive versus HDD, SSD, and Fusion

            I have SSD & HDD on windows and its fab.

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              #26
              Originally posted by Scruff View Post
              Its to be used to provide Datastores to my vSphere 5.5 environment at home. It isn't going to be used as C or D drive....NAS devices have moved on somewhat, so no need for a SAN, per se, where NFS will suffice.
              I know that they have evolved, but with 1Gbit Ethernet they are not good enough and most of the SSD performance gain is wasted due to the bottle neck of the network. Unless you went for a 10Gbit, which i doubt giving the price premium.
              Last edited by sal; 3 July 2014, 08:15.

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                #27
                Originally posted by d000hg View Post
                SSD prices are continuing to tumble too though.

                £160 (what Apple want to upgrade you from 1Gb 5400rpm -> 256SSD) will buy you a 512Gb SSD these days. I reckon 512Gb might be all I need, although to run both my Windows and Mac systems on one machine might make things a bit tighter.
                Yeah i was about to ask how much will Apple charge for the privilege, knowing they are not the cheapest company out there. Do they even tell you what make/model the SSD offered is? There are a lot of lackluster SSDs out there with performance barely above HDD and looking at the default HDD that is 5400rpm DEAD SLOW, i can only imagine the SSD offer will be sub-par as well.

                Does the Mac mini have room for additional disk, if so you are probably better off getting the original configuration and stick aftermarket SSD of your choosing for the OS(es) and use the original 1TB HDD for cold storage.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by sal View Post
                  Yeah i was about to ask how much will Apple charge for the privilege, knowing they are not the cheapest company out there. Do they even tell you what make/model the SSD offered is? There are a lot of lackluster SSDs out there with performance barely above HDD and looking at the default HDD that is 5400rpm DEAD SLOW, i can only imagine the SSD offer will be sub-par as well.

                  Does the Mac mini have room for additional disk, if so you are probably better off getting the original configuration and stick aftermarket SSD of your choosing for the OS(es) and use the original 1TB HDD for cold storage.
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                    #29
                    I've seen others sell that sort of thing - amazing there's room inside the case.

                    If doing a cold install of OSX isn't too awkward I might just do that... get the lowest-spec quad-core i7 model and then buy an SSD and 16Gb RAM.

                    I wonder though if you could even buy the cheapest £499 dual-core i5 and replace the CPU with an i7 for less. No idea if it's the same mainboard/chipset in both although you'd think in the interest of cost saving they would use the same parts in both.
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Unix View Post
                      The opposite, its the most efficient as the files are exactly where you want them, an algorithm will get it wrong and be swapping files constantly between both. I _never_ want my OS to be on the IDE and never want 2GB movies taking up SSD. If guess if you are a fanboi of apple then you'll believe any tulip the spout though rather than thinking for yourself.
                      Not quite.

                      How about that 2.5 GB of stuff in Xcode.app ? Do you really need all of it on the SSD portion?

                      Ditto with the stuff in /Library and ~/Library. Both can get quite large.

                      I regularly edit audio files of 1-2 GB. I'd be far happier not having to manually shunt them around to work on them and remembering to move them to slower storage when I've done.
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