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How do you run Windows on your Mac?
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Optional or forced? I don't have much interest in W8, I just need to demo some Windows software!Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishing -
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Optional.Originally posted by d000hg View PostOptional or forced? I don't have much interest in W8, I just need to demo some Windows software!Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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I've used Parallels since my first Intel Mac in 2006. I had VMWare on a ClientCo MBP running Leopard back in 2008 and wasn't very happy with its performance compared to Parallels on my lesser MacBook, although I also didn't think much of Leopard (brand new at that time) and waited for Snow Leopard to upgrade.
I assume VMWare is fine now, but as an existing user I get discounts on Parallels upgrades, and as I've always been happy with it I've stuck with it.
However I don't really use Windows for much, seldom having a VM running longer than about twenty minutes for debugging/testing on IE; maybe VMWare has advantages I'm not aware of for intensive use.Comment
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I use VMWare Fusion. As mentioned above, not much in with VMWare and Parallels. I also have a Win7 Bootcamp for more modern games that don't work smoothly in a VM.
My main two uses for the VMWare now are:
- as a published app service for MS Project and Visio. Works fairly flawlessly in the Unity mode meaning I don't have to interact with the main Win7 UI too much
- as a downloading sandbox for torrents. If it gets trashed by a nasty then I just delete the VM and copy back in the backup vanilla hardened VM image (well... as hardened as you can get Win7 with only barebones stuff on it).Comment
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This sounds like an obvious 'no' but are VM images cross-compatible at all between any of these tools... if I want to test several it would be lovely not to have to re-install Windows every time!
On another topic, my laptop has no optical drive, and all my copies of W7 are on CD/DVD. Is there an easy way using my Windows desktop to get an electronic copy I can stick on the Mac via network/USB?Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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How do you run Windows on your Mac?
I think there is the ova format for cross compatibility not sure if they can be easily converted from the proprietary ones tho.
U can install via cd, DVD, mem stick or even iso...Comment
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VirtualBox can access other VM image formats but I am not sure it copes with the latest variations of Parallels or Fusion formats. I have certainly migrated from both VirtualBox (via an OVA export) and Parallels into Fusion. I am pretty sure I managed an import from VirtualBox into Parallels as well.Originally posted by d000hg View PostThis sounds like an obvious 'no' but are VM images cross-compatible at all between any of these tools... if I want to test several it would be lovely not to have to re-install Windows every time!
Beware that OVA export from VirtualBox can be painfully slow. The one I set off last night started out with an estimate of 5 hours, though when I got back from the pub 45 minutes later it had finished.
ImgBurn is the way to go. Installations from disc images can be significantly faster if you put them on a separate drive from the VM target drive.Originally posted by d000hg View PostOn another topic, my laptop has no optical drive, and all my copies of W7 are on CD/DVD. Is there an easy way using my Windows desktop to get an electronic copy I can stick on the Mac via network/USB?Behold the warranty -- the bold print giveth and the fine print taketh away.Comment
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From Parallel's docs: "Parallels Desktop supports virtual machines created in Parallels Desktop, VMware Fusion, Microsoft Virtual PC, and VirtualBox."Originally posted by d000hg View PostThis sounds like an obvious 'no' but are VM images cross-compatible at all between any of these tools... if I want to test several it would be lovely not to have to re-install Windows every time!
On another topic, my laptop has no optical drive, and all my copies of W7 are on CD/DVD. Is there an easy way using my Windows desktop to get an electronic copy I can stick on the Mac via network/USB?
I've imported a Virtual PC VM to Parallels a few times; it can take a little while (not a huge while though) but worked perfectly. EDIT: that was on an older version; it's possible the latest version doesn't need to run the conversion process and can use the other formats directly, but I haven't upgraded yet so I don't know.
The latest version of Parallels (well, next-to-latest version 7, and possibly earlier ones, not sure) has the option to "Migrate Windows from a PC" by installing a bit of software (free to download) on the PC and hooking them up over the network, but I've never tried that.
It can also run a BootCamp partition as a VM, if it's on the same Mac. A BootCamp partition on a different Mac can only be imported as a new VM.Last edited by NickFitz; 9 January 2013, 13:33.Comment
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Just to make sure I understood that last part... I can install BootCamp and create a W7 partition, and then I can have the choice of booting natively into Windows at system startup, OR loading that partition as a VM from within OSX? That sounds pretty neat.Originally posted by MaryPoppinsI'd still not breastfeed a naziOriginally posted by vetranUrine is quite nourishingComment
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