Office 2010

[AtW]

You're such a typical engineer.

Look nerdy, it's like this - customer is always right, ok?

FYI I've used more or less every version of Microsoft Office - this includes real DOS tulip versions but even those were superior to this ribbon uber tulip

[AtW]

How much e-mail do you get?!!

This is confidential.

Let's just say I was forced to upgrade to Outlook 2010 with that darned ribbon

[2BIT]

We've gone a tad off topic, but what the hell

I'm using Windows7 and have been for quite a while now, I think I first installed it within a month of the release. Given the choice I would have preferred to lose the default start menu for a Win2000 lookalike as I did with XP, but I live with it. The negative to me (similar to the ribbon) is that the damn thing can't be re-sized and it's unnecessarily wide. Apart from that Win7 suits me fine.

sorry mate I have a tendency to do that!!

The thing about Win7 for me is I don't know what benefits it will bring me upgrading before XP becomes obsolete, Ill probably still be using the basic functionality I enjoy in XP with third part tools for the things windows doesn't do so when XP finally does become obsolete I'll switch to win 7 but will probably won't be using anything which is new with win7 (at least consciously) - no doubt in time I'll learn of the new functionality in Win7 I can use but am pretty much ignorant of it at the mo

is there any new functionality in Office 2010/Win 7 that made you think 'Yes!, I will be using this a lot!' so far the windows search and office ribbon haven't done that for me and they seem to be some of the major selling points

[doodab]

is there any new functionality in Office 2010/Win 7 that made you think 'Yes!, I will be using this a lot!' so far the windows search and office ribbon haven't done that for me and they seem to be some of the major selling points

I have some quite specialised and expensive hardware that didn't work with 64 bit XP but it has 64 bit win 7 drivers. That and the improvements to OneNote have been the main things for me, and media centre on my HTPC which is excellent. Some of the new window manipulation stuff is slightly annoying IMO.

I still use XP at work and dual boot on a desktop at home as I haven't had time to transfer everything over yet, and I don't find it's a *huge* difference TBH.

[lilelvis2000]

I upgraded my users to Outlook 2010 because Outlook 2003 didn't fully utilise IMAP. Sure it can read and store mail using IMAP, but when e-mail is sent it still stored the e-mail in its own local file. There are some hacks apparently where you could put a rule in to move mail to an IMAP folder, but who the hell want's to manage that! And when it came to deleting mail Outlook 2003 forced an extra step, whereas 2010 moves it into a Trash folder where my server scripts can remove it after 10 days.

The other option was to use Thunderbird or similar and I'm sure that would confuse the heck out of my users more than the Ribbon would.

[d000hg]

Look nerdy, it's like this - customer is always right, ok?

That saying refers to customer service, not designing a product people can choose not to buy. Designing by committee from all the features users say they want will lead to something uninspired.

[eek]

That saying refers to customer service, not designing a product people can choose not to buy. Designing by committee from all the features users say they want will lead to something uninspired.

It depends. I have a simple rule based on the size of the cheque being waved.

[2BIT]

That saying refers to customer service, not designing a product people can choose not to buy. Designing by committee from all the features users say they want will lead to something uninspired.

which to me is what has happened at microsoft, there was no wow factor to win7 (or xp for that matter) - but i'm not convinced the ribbon was driven by user desire any more than Bob or the search dog was...

[eek]

which to me is what has happened at microsoft, there was no wow factor to win7 (or xp for that matter) - but i'm not convinced the ribbon was driven by user desire any more than Bob or the search dog was...

My guess is that they designed the new ribbon and then did some usability testing on people who had never seen a computer to see how it worked.

For the ribbon version they had the person who created the ribbon watching over the users and telling them what to do.

for the old version they had a bob without a computer on a poor quality phone line who had to guess what users wanted to do next by osmosis.

[fckvwls]

the improvements to OneNote have been the main things for me, .

Yep, really starting to use OneNote an awful lot now. Very handy product.