Are arty farty websites a good idea?

[cojak]

Or try Is my website ineffective? (for those souls who don't get the joke... )

[Durbs]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

[xoggoth]

Ta for comments, useful links in there. Mostly, I seem to be approaching it ok by keeping it simple. (Pity about the jscript based shopping cart.)

[PAH]

Pity about the jscript based shopping cart.

Do people still turn javascript off and if so can they no longer go shopping?

Are these people more than nerds using Opera so probably worth worrying about?

Never really sure whether it's safe to rely on javascript these days.

[cojak]

Do people still turn javascript off and if so can they no longer go shopping?

Are these people more than nerds using Opera so probably worth worrying about?

Never really sure whether it's safe to rely on javascript these days.

I turn it off until I've decided to trust the site. It doesn't come on automatically.

[PAH]

I turn it off until I've decided to trust the site. It doesn't come on automatically.

I suppose it's a non-issue then in that the people that know how to turn it off/on, and the reasons why, are the only ones likely to turn it off, and if they fancy doing a spot of javascript trolley shopping they'll turn it back on.


Jo public probably has the browser set to how it comes 'out of the box', so as long as javascript is on by default with most popular browsers they'll know no different.

[Sysman]

I suppose it's a non-issue then in that the people that know how to turn it off/on, and the reasons why, are the only ones likely to turn it off, and if they fancy doing a spot of javascript trolley shopping they'll turn it back on.

I've got bits of Javascript on a couple of sites, with the aim of graceful degradation. In practice that means that a visitor with JS disabled will get full instead of partial screen refreshes and fully expanded dialogues instead of collapsed ones. In other words, the main meat of the web site should still be accessible and work with JS disabled. I'll hasten to add I'm not doing anything terribly fancy.

Jo public probably has the browser set to how it comes 'out of the box', so as long as javascript is on by default with most popular browsers they'll know no different.

This is probably true, but I am occasionally stunned by the arrogance of those who hand out stroppy messages inferring you are a moron if you visit their site with it turned off.

[xoggoth]

For anyone not wanting to set up own site, BT are pushing this thing called BT Tradespace in collaboration with Paypal. Looks good for a free shop , none of restrictions of eBay.

[PAH]

For anyone not wanting to set up own site, BT are pushing this thing called BT Tradespace in collaboration with Paypal. Looks good for a free shop , none of restrictions of eBay.

Don't eBay own Paypal?

Wonder what'll happen if BT step on eBay's rather big feet by trying to entice the less amateur sellers away from eBay.

[Numpty]

Stick to something nice, clean and understated: http://www.americanbeautybordercollies.com/

Does anyone have any tips on how to remove diced carrot from a keyboard?