FTP woes

[xoggoth]

Ta for offer pzz.

Horribly complex program for us not networky sorts and not sure this is what you mean but I got two text reports for a successful upload of a small image and a typically incomplete one of a larger image. Can't see any obvious difference myself.

http://www.xoggoth.org/temp/ftpok.txt

http://www.xoggoth.org/temp/ftpfail.txt

Just search for .jpg to find start of upload. The larger one is here.


http://www.xoggoth.org/temp/temp%20tree.jpg

Larger html files get bashed too. On downloading again they can often look ok but comparison with original shows bits missing, as likely to be in middle as at start or end.

[NickFitz]

When I moved to my present ISP they gave me 100MB space so I thought "Why not use it?". FTP on the Mac wanted to go into some "Super FTP" mode, which the other end didn't want to know about, so I used a non-Mac system instead.

Tricky stuff and you really don't want to get into the RFCs here.

Is sftp an option?

FTPS === Secure FTP: it's the FTP equivalent of HTTPS. FWIW, none of my Macs have ever tried to go to that by default, whether I'm using Transmit (the best Mac GUI FTP app) or command-line FTP from a shell (=== Terminal window, for Mac users who don't know what a shell is).

Nor have any of my Macs ever had any problem with negotiating between active and passive FTP without me having to lift a finger. I can only assume that there was something odd on your system.

(And you should always get into the RFCs. They're the most important documentation there is when it comes to t'Internet. If you haven't read and understood the RFCs, you can't be sure of anything.)

[darmstadt]

(And you should always get into the RFCs. They're the most important documentation there is when it comes to t'Internet. If you haven't read and understood the RFCs, you can't be sure of anything.)

Especially this one

[Sysman]

FTPS === Secure FTP: it's the FTP equivalent of HTTPS. FWIW, none of my Macs have ever tried to go to that by default, whether I'm using Transmit (the best Mac GUI FTP app) or command-line FTP from a shell (=== Terminal window, for Mac users who don't know what a shell is).

No, when I mentioned "Super FTP" mode, it was maybe "Extended mode" or some such. I've never seen it with any other FTP mix.

By sftp I meant this:

SFTP(1)                   BSD General Commands Manual                  SFTP(1)

NAME
     sftp -- secure file transfer program

and then there's

SCP(1)                    BSD General Commands Manual                   SCP(1)

NAME
     scp -- secure copy (remote file copy program)

I just think it's a good habit to get into using them where I can, even on local machines.

Nor have any of my Macs ever had any problem with negotiating between active and passive FTP without me having to lift a finger. I can only assume that there was something odd on your system.

It was 4 years ago, and I found a workaround. It was a pretty ropey set up on the ISP's side from other points of view, so I sought an alternative pronto.

(And you should always get into the RFCs. They're the most important documentation there is when it comes to t'Internet. If you haven't read and understood the RFCs, you can't be sure of anything.)

Even if you have read 'em they may not help when it comes to IE

[Durbs]

Have you tried using a different client than Filezilla? Its normally a solid client but try just accessing the FTP site through 'My Computer' using Windows FTP and see if any different then at least you can rule out the client FTP app as the cause.

[Ardesco]

SFTP != FTPS

One is using SSH and the other is using FTP through SSL

hth

[Sysman]

SFTP != FTPS

One is using SSH and the other is using FTP through SSL

hth

Yeah, I have no idea why Nick assumed I was using a GUI FTP.