New Phone Needed

[Badger]

Not good news about the delay, the look of the software looks good though.

[NickFitz]

Not good news about the delay, the look of the software looks good though.

I'm a Mac user, have been for years, and as soon as the PAYG iPhone is available I'm getting one.

Believe me when I say: LOOKS DON'T COUNT. Capabilities count.

Never buy stuff you intend to use based on mere looks. Geeks buy Apple products because they're the best, not because they look good.

(E.g. I spend a lot of time on my MacBook in the bash shell... either its own, or one on a server far, far away. Terminal.app can be made to look really nice, for a command-line environment - but it's what it can do that's important. I keep forgetting to customise mine, but I constantly make use of the capabilities it has. It's a usability triumph, and there aren't many command-line-hosting-applications about which one can say that.)

[Spacecadet]

I'm a Mac user, have been for years, and as soon as the PAYG iPhone is available I'm getting one.

Believe me when I say: LOOKS DON'T COUNT. Capabilities count.

Never buy stuff you intend to use based on mere looks. Geeks buy Apple products because they're the best, not because they look good.

(E.g. I spend a lot of time on my MacBook in the bash shell... either its own, or one on a server far, far away. Terminal.app can be made to look really nice, for a command-line environment - but it's what it can do that's important. I keep forgetting to customise mine, but I constantly make use of the capabilities it has. It's a usability triumph, and there aren't many command-line-hosting-applications about which one can say that.)

Go on then, what are these capabilities that make the command line such a triumph?

[Moscow Mule]

Go on then, what are these capabilities that make the command line such a triumph?

Tabs are quite handy, but I don't really use it enough to care...

[Peoplesoft bloke]

Go on then, what are these capabilities that make the command line such a triumph?

good point but in any case wtf would you want to do that on an iPhone?

If iPhone is so great why can't I use it as a modem like the Windows and Symbian ones? And why no MMS? What technically makes it so much better?

[Badger]

Believe me when I say: LOOKS DON'T COUNT. Capabilities count.

I never would, it was just an observation about the 'look' i.e. the potential usability of the software, not a comment on it's capabilities. The reason why I don't like Nokia's is because of the 'look' of the software, I find it clunky to navigate which would annoy me, so I don't buy, even if it has all the capabilities I want.

[Moscow Mule]

good point but in any case wtf would you want to do that on an iPhone?

That wasn't the point being made.

If iPhone is so great why can't I use it as a modem like the Windows and Symbian ones?

Good question. Technically, you can - http://arstechnica.com/journals/appl...r-iphones-edge

And why no MMS?

When was the last time you sent an MMS. Commercially MMS has been a failure. People just don't give a tulip. I'm not surprised it was left out.

What technically makes it so much better?

IMO, primarily the interface.
Much like the ipod to the mp3 player market, (which wasn't the first mp3 player) the iphone has redefined the user experience for a mobile phone, and added a web experience you can actually use - the symbian browser is crap, as is the blackberry one, winmo is useable, but nowhere near as slick as the iphone. There are other shiny things about it, but thats the winner for me.

All that being said, I've still got blackberry as the hardware keyboard is a must for me.

When a touch screen with haptic feedback comes out, I'll be on it like something proverbial.

[pmeswani]

I'm a Mac user, have been for years, and as soon as the PAYG iPhone is available I'm getting one.

Believe me when I say: LOOKS DON'T COUNT. Capabilities count.

Never buy stuff you intend to use based on mere looks. Geeks buy Apple products because they're the best, not because they look good.

(E.g. I spend a lot of time on my MacBook in the bash shell... either its own, or one on a server far, far away. Terminal.app can be made to look really nice, for a command-line environment - but it's what it can do that's important. I keep forgetting to customise mine, but I constantly make use of the capabilities it has. It's a usability triumph, and there aren't many command-line-hosting-applications about which one can say that.)

I had the Motorola A1000 phone a few years ago. Bought it because of the touch screen technology and the large screen. Over time, I found it unbareable and went back to the normal style phones (i.e. the ones with the keypad). Used Nokia a few times, ended up hating them. Have a LG HSDPA phone and found that certain functions such as messaging audible alerts, surfing and the battery life is poor. I'm looking for a change in phone come October time. IPhone is not an option with my provider (thank god!), so I am hoping that the Blackberry Bold is.

Looks and Feel are important, just as usability. Capabilities are also important, but I must point out that no matter how capable a phone is, if I, the user, can't use it, then the capabilities don't matter.

[Bear]

Sorry for piggbacking on this thread but does anyone know what the typical data usage is for surfing tinterweb on a mobile? Not you tube or downloading music, just posting tulip here or reading news sites etc

TIA

PL

I've been using my phone for a while now for exactly what you say and Vodafone contract was offering 120Mb per month usage (it's now unlimited).

I set my browser to images off I was using significantly less than the limit, maybe around 80 - 90 Mb per month - that's surfing on and off for most of the day!!

[Fred Bloggs]

I've been using my phone for a while now for exactly what you say and Vodafone contract was offering 120Mb per month usage (it's now unlimited).

I set my browser to images off I was using significantly less than the limit, maybe around 80 - 90 Mb per month - that's surfing on and off for most of the day!!

Sorry for the thread hijack. Do Vodafone offer a dongle to use on a laptop with "unlimited" data download? Last time I looked into this with O2, "unlimited" meant actually a 3Gb cap. I need ~15Gb a month-ish. ta.

Sorry, just checked. 5Gb limit on "unlimited" :-(