Reply to: A Laurel, and Hardy handshake to all IPSE Refugees

[ladymuck]

There are some subtle differences between the package IPSE offers and the individual items you can buy from Qdos to make up your own package. I would recommend you look at both and consider what you need vs the cost and make your own decision.

You get the benefit of IPSE's lobbying whether or not you go with them.

[james12]

..and take up the insurance from QDOS.

As well as IPSE membership?

In terms of insurance, IPSE are good. QDOS are better.

So do most people have both IPSE & QDOS (or another insurance provider)?

Is there not a one stop shop? Or is it naive to think one company/organisation can do it all?

In terms of lobbying, IPSE are about to fall well behind. HOME | Loancharge is taking over.

Is there still mileage in lobbying? Not to sound pessimistic, IR35 feels like its here to stay. Isn't it about damage limitation now?

Thanks for your replies everyone!

[BrilloPad]

Is IPSE on its way out then?
I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
James

In terms of lobbying, IPSE are about to fall well behind. HOME | Loancharge is taking over.

In terms of insurance, IPSE are good. QDOS are better.

[mudskipper]

Is IPSE on its way out then?
I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
James

There's always been a lot of negativity towards IPSE.

IPSE made some changes to their governance last year, which was unpopular with many of us, but hasn't fundamentally affected what IPSE do.

I'm still a member, and happy to recommend membership - both for the benefits, and for the lobbying work they do on IR35 - it may be ineffective, but I don't think that means they shouldn't be trying.

As regards to whether it's "on it's way out", it may be that once the IR35 changes come into the private sector, many members may feel they no longer want to operate as a business and therefore IPSE may not be for them. IPSE are broadening their membership base to counteract that risk. It's going to be around for a while - how it shapes up long term remains to be seen.

[cojak]

..and take up the insurance from QDOS.

[malvolio]

Is IPSE on its way out then?
I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
James

Negativity from some - mostly those who haven't accepted that the world is moving on, and one or two working ancient agendas..

Ignore them, and the other areas that IPSE are moving into. Just make a simple commercial decision if membership is cost effective. Quite a lot of people think it is.

[GhostofTarbera]

Is IPSE on its way out then?
I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
James

Depends

Are you are returning mum from maternity leave with poor broadband? - if so yes join

If you are an IT contractor who’s only worry is IR35 probably not as 20 years and £75 million (fag packet cacl) of members money spent, IR35 kills our business stone dead in the coming months


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[james12]

But they already have and no-one is using it??

Is IPSE on its way out then?
I am new to contracting & have seen a lot of negativity in regards to IPSE. Should I not even contemplate joining it?
James

[NotAllThere]

Agree with me and all will be tolerated

Just like here.

[Scruff]

Crap . PCG was built by a bunch of people using those forums. Where it went wrong was when the CC were allowed to choose not to use them, meaning there was no longer a route in to the management, making them largely redundant.

Now people have drifted awsy. They filled their purpose, now they no longer have one

The only thing that is crap is the drivel you spout about the old CC. If you try hard enough you'll soon be on their Members' Forum like the one ex-CC person . You are a bitter man.

(New) IPSE is nothing like the PCG.

[malvolio]

IPSE Forum populated by the CEO and his bunch of sycophants, no doubt? Agree with me and all will be tolerated.

What a waste of time and money that all was. At least some have seen the light.

Crap . PCG was built by a bunch of people using those forums. Where it went wrong was when the CC were allowed to choose not to use them, meaning there was no longer a route in to the management, making them largely redundant.

Now people have drifted awsy. They filled their purpose, now they no longer have one

[Scruff]

IPSE Forum populated by the CEO and his bunch of sycophants, no doubt? Agree with me and all will be tolerated.

What a waste of time and money that all was. At least some have seen the light.

[GhostofTarbera]

Mebbe IPSE should have a members forum to encourage participation and engagement

Might also help if 5+ member forum members paid for membership themselves rather than being suppliers or sponsored by ipse


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[cojak]

Ah..

Maybe this one is better...

[SimonMac]

But they already have and no-one is using it??