Reply to: Saferec Problems?

[WalterWhite]

Just noticed it's now down to 64, despite one being added last week. That's 5 off in 2 weeks, which does seem very strange - maybe there is something wrong there?

Fortunately, it wasn't my friends new company removed

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So, despite two going in a week, he's been told he still has to use another from the list - 3rd time lucky I guess!

Just taking a moment to play devil's advocate here. Just because a company disappears from the list is not evidence that they are doing anything dodgy. There is a financial burden on the umbrella that comes from being a member (don't forget Saferec exists to make its owners money despite their lofty ideals) and in these days of squeezed umbrella margins, some may decide that the return does not justify the cost.

[WalterWhite]

So, despite two going in a week, he's been told he still has to use another from the list - 3rd time lucky I guess!

[WalterWhite]

Likewise, I've not heard anything, but I am also aware that some companies who may have been taken off the list recently may have been taken off for very good reasons, which they may not want to admit to, so might try to push the blame on others.
Perhaps WalterWhite could search on here for the umbrellas he is referring to, to see if there are any threads about them that might make a contractor wary.

Nothing I can find?

[WTFH]

P.S. I've not heard anything about any data breach at Saferec and I do keep my ear to the ground. I'm sure that if there had been a breach it would be common knowledge in the industry. Things like that do tend to get talked about.

Likewise, I've not heard anything, but I am also aware that some companies who may have been taken off the list recently may have been taken off for very good reasons, which they may not want to admit to, so might try to push the blame on others.
Perhaps WalterWhite could search on here for the umbrellas he is referring to, to see if there are any threads about them that might make a contractor wary.

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P.S. I've not heard anything about any data breach at Saferec and I do keep my ear to the ground. I'm sure that if there had been a breach it would be common knowledge in the industry. Things like that do tend to get talked about.

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I've always kept a vague eye on the Saferec list but it seems that there's been a lot of movement recently so I'm taking more notice.

Since last week, Churchill Knight and Payday Cloud have both gone off the list. Both still have the Saferec logo on their websites so may be nothing more than an admin issue.

I seem to remember that part of the Saferec service is that they inform their members if any umbrella lose other accreditations - not sure if there is anything similar done by FCSA for example to keep an eye on the Saferec list.....

[WalterWhite]

He was with an umbrella that told him they were coming off saferec due to a data breach at saferec, he was made to sign up with another company on the saferec list, he did and now they have come off saferec saying there was a data breach at saferec

The list is now down to 65 on their website, so something must be up as seems odd they would be losing companies when you'd think they'd be adding them

[WTFH]

He was forced to use one and they came off Saferec the next week as well, again mentioning a data breach

The list on their website is now down to 65

Must be something in it?

OK, are you saying that there has been a data breach at Saferec, or that there has been a data breach at a company that used to be listed by them and because that company had a data breach, then Saferec no longer lists them.
You've worded it in a way that could imply that Saferec had a breach, but worded it in such a way that it is ambiguous. You seem happy to name Saferec, but not the umbrella that could have been the one that had the data breach.

[WalterWhite]

He was forced to use one and they came off Saferec the next week as well, again mentioning a data breach

The list on their website is now down to 65

Must be something in it?

[eek]

Why is that relevant?

Because it's not connected to the thing the OP is talking about...

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That's been known for about a month - I knew 27th June...

Why is that relevant?

[eek]

And now I know why you know them well.....

https://www.fcsa.org.uk/fcsa-opens-investigation-5/

Ooof.

That's been known for about a month - I knew 27th June...

Also worth saying that the umbrella got new owners on 10th December 2025...

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Both!

And now I know why you know them well.....

https://www.fcsa.org.uk/fcsa-opens-investigation-5/

Ooof.

[lucyclarityumbrella]

Saferec or FCSA accredited? Come on, give us a clue.....

Both!