Originally posted by Andy Hallett
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Originally posted by Andy Hallett View PostIn this scenario he is employed. I presume IPSE doesn’t cover this.
If you have an outstanding invoice with an end client, agency, or umbrella company that is going bankrupt or into administration, it’s likely you won’t get paid. That’s why we provide IPSE members with up to £10,000 if an end client or agency goes into administration and up to £2,500 if your umbrella company goes bankrupt or into administration.
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Originally posted by jamesbrown View PostI don't suppose he's a member of IPSE?
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Originally posted by Nagsman View PostHe had previously been using a reliable long established umbrella but the Agency would not allow that one as it was not on their preferred suppliers list of 4 - 2 of which now appear to have gone down.
The Crystal Umbrella thread started with one person mentioning it and we had a flurry of people getting really useful advice about the situation.
If you don't want to them PM me the agents details and I'll ring them and try and get the info out of them.
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when Umbrellas go bust
Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNot duty of care. They should have done their diligence but they aren't liable. Did they just recommend them or did they give you a list you had to chose from? Golden tip. Never use anything an agent recommends if at all possible. They only do it for kick backs.
Definitely take it back to the agent through. I'd be threatening to down tools as well. That means the agent won't get his comission so they'll sit up and take notice of that.
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mmm...interesting
If they have been placed into formal Liquidation, you, as an employee of the Umbrella should have preferential rights as a creditor.
I would firstly try to determine whether
1. The Umbrella is incorporated in England and Wales (look up their names from the contract in Companies House).
2. It is actually in Liquidation (again, look in Companies House for their status).
3. If they are in Liquidation, contact the Liquidator (by telephone and then follow up by email).
4. Confirm with the Liquidator that they have you down as an employee and creditor.
IANYA
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Originally posted by ladymuck View PostAlthough hard to do in practise if an agent refuses to let you use your preferred brolly. Even if they did pay their subs to the big boys club.
Be really useful if he could name them. We had a field day with the Crystal Umbrella/Pendragon/Back to Crystal carry on.
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Originally posted by northernladuk View PostNot duty of care. They should have done their diligence but they aren't liable. Did they just recommend them or did they give you a list you had to chose from? Golden tip. Never use anything an agent recommends if at all possible. They only do it for kick backs.
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Originally posted by Nagsman View PostA family member, long time contractor is working via and Agency which has insisted that he uses one of the Umbrellas on their preferred list. Back in September Umbrella 1 ceased to trade owing him 2 weeks money. More recently Umbrella 2 has not paid him since mid-december and is unresponsive to emails and phone calls.
Since the Agency is insisting that these are approved umbrellas are they legally liable? Surely they are in breach of their duty of care.
Definitely take it back to the agent through. I'd be threatening to down tools as well. That means the agent won't get his comission so they'll sit up and take notice of that.
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Originally posted by Nagsman View PostA family member, long time contractor is working via and Agency which has insisted that he uses one of the Umbrellas on their preferred list. Back in September Umbrella 1 ceased to trade owing him 2 weeks money. More recently Umbrella 2 has not paid him since mid-december and is unresponsive to emails and phone calls.
Since the Agency is insisting that these are approved umbrellas are they legally liable? Surely they are in breach of their duty of care.
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Originally posted by Nagsman View PostA family member, long time contractor is working via and Agency which has insisted that he uses one of the Umbrellas on their preferred list. Back in September Umbrella 1 ceased to trade owing him 2 weeks money. More recently Umbrella 2 has not paid him since mid-december and is unresponsive to emails and phone calls.
Since the Agency is insisting that these are approved umbrellas are they legally liable? Surely they are in breach of their duty of care.
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When Umbrellas go bust?
A family member, long time contractor is working via and Agency which has insisted that he uses one of the Umbrellas on their preferred list. Back in September Umbrella 1 ceased to trade owing him 2 weeks money. More recently Umbrella 2 has not paid him since mid-december and is unresponsive to emails and phone calls.
Since the Agency is insisting that these are approved umbrellas are they legally liable? Surely they are in breach of their duty of care.Tags: None
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