What Reasonable Adjustments can an Umbrella provide?

[lucyclarityumbrella]

You’re a contractor, you chose to go for a contract that involved travel to site. You were fully aware of that before taking the contract. It is not “additional travel costs”, it’s part of accepting the contract. In other words, no, it’s your responsibility, you shouldn’t be blaming/charging someone else for your failure to choose a more suitable contract to meet your requirements.

You forgot to question if the assignment is under SDC too - and how this aligns with employment law, tax law and now disability laws. Suggest HMRC will have the answers

[BR14]

why bother?
the guy's a twat, with no clue how contracting works.
or just a troll.
whatever.

[WTFH]

1) I currently require weekly treatment and long term secondary care input, which will incur additional travel costs from a client’s site.

You’re a contractor, you chose to go for a contract that involved travel to site. You were fully aware of that before taking the contract. It is not “additional travel costs”, it’s part of accepting the contract. In other words, no, it’s your responsibility, you shouldn’t be blaming/charging someone else for your failure to choose a more suitable contract to meet your requirements.

2) I have to take long term anti seizure and sedating medications overnight which limit my ability to get up early for longer commutes and I therefore need to reduce the length of my commute as far as possible by staying close to company premises.

You’re a contractor, you chose to go for a contract that was a long commute from home. You were fully aware of that before taking the contract. In other words, no, it’s your responsibility, you shouldn’t be blaming/charging someone else for your failure to choose a more suitable contract to meet your requirements.

3) My medication and/or condition can impact on my ability to travel safely to work. I have to keep the DVLA up to date regarding my condition and they have revoked my driving licence in the past (last time 2018). The lowest risk Health and Safety option is to travel once a week and be based walking distance from a client site.

So why did you deliberately choose a contract that required a lot of travel? You’re supposed to be a professional contractor. If you aren’t able, or aren’t prepared to travel, then you need to choose more appropriate contracts, or factor your requirements into the contract negotiations. It’s not up to the umbrella company to decide which contracts you choose, the rate you agree, the terms of the contract, or how you deal with any issues you may have.

4) I cannot move close to the employers site because I need to maintain contact with my current long term health team.

Then you need to choose a contract that is close to your current health team.

My RA suggestion was that my expenses are processed outside of taxable income.


Ghost, I know it's wishful thinking but unlike a normal disclosure situation where I have to weigh up any request against the potential for discrimination, I don't need to disclose to the client so I may as well push my luck with an Umbrella because what's the worst they can do? I suppose they might pay me late for being awkward.

This is nothing to do with “discrimination”, “disability” or “disclosure” and everything to do with YOU choosing a contract and YOU agreeing a rate without YOU even considering your ability to deliver said contract or how much it would cost you to do so.

Have you checked how the umbrella will work with regards to days when you don’t invoice? I can see a thread about “sick days” coming soon.

[northernladuk]

I've a feeling you are going to have a very difficult contracting career.

[mb31]

don't go away mad,etc

Interesting. I've had similar advice elsewhere.

[BR14]

I guess you have sedating medication too BR14. I'll let you know which is the most disability friendly Umbrella.

i'll pass.
don't go away mad,etc

[mb31]

I guess you have sedating medication too BR14. I'll let you know which is the most disability friendly Umbrella.

[BR14]

My start date is meant to be 13th Jan but my agent has been on leave for the last two weeks so it's not been finalised. Unlike the agency, HMRC and the Umbrellas have been answering my calls. I managed to get through to HMRC quite quickly so obviously no one else is sad enough to phone them between Christmas and NY but I spoke to three different people and got significantly different answers to the same question. There is an Umbrella HMRC hotline apparently.

NLUK, I have asked the Umbrellas and I reeled off a list of my limitations to see what they might come back with:

1) I currently require weekly treatment and long term secondary care input, which will incur additional travel costs from a client’s site.

2) I have to take long term anti seizure and sedating medications overnight which limit my ability to get up early for longer commutes and I therefore need to reduce the length of my commute as far as possible by staying close to company premises.

3) My medication and/or condition can impact on my ability to travel safely to work. I have to keep the DVLA up to date regarding my condition and they have revoked my driving licence in the past (last time 2018). The lowest risk Health and Safety option is to travel once a week and be based walking distance from a client site.

4) I cannot move close to the employers site because I need to maintain contact with my current long term health team.


My RA suggestion was that my expenses are processed outside of taxable income.


Ghost, I know it's wishful thinking but unlike a normal disclosure situation where I have to weigh up any request against the potential for discrimination, I don't need to disclose to the client so I may as well push my luck with an Umbrella because what's the worst they can do? I suppose they might pay me late for being awkward.

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[mb31]

My start date is meant to be 13th Jan but my agent has been on leave for the last two weeks so it's not been finalised. Unlike the agency, HMRC and the Umbrellas have been answering my calls. I managed to get through to HMRC quite quickly so obviously no one else is sad enough to phone them between Christmas and NY but I spoke to three different people and got significantly different answers to the same question. There is an Umbrella HMRC hotline apparently.

NLUK, I have asked the Umbrellas and I reeled off a list of my limitations to see what they might come back with:

1) I currently require weekly treatment and long term secondary care input, which will incur additional travel costs from a client’s site.

2) I have to take long term anti seizure and sedating medications overnight which limit my ability to get up early for longer commutes and I therefore need to reduce the length of my commute as far as possible by staying close to company premises.

3) My medication and/or condition can impact on my ability to travel safely to work. I have to keep the DVLA up to date regarding my condition and they have revoked my driving licence in the past (last time 2018). The lowest risk Health and Safety option is to travel once a week and be based walking distance from a client site.

4) I cannot move close to the employers site because I need to maintain contact with my current long term health team.


My RA suggestion was that my expenses are processed outside of taxable income.


Ghost, I know it's wishful thinking but unlike a normal disclosure situation where I have to weigh up any request against the potential for discrimination, I don't need to disclose to the client so I may as well push my luck with an Umbrella because what's the worst they can do? I suppose they might pay me late for being awkward.

[GhostofTarbera]

You are dreaming man

Take your meds, bottle of vodka and relax


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[northernladuk]

Why don't you ask them?

[WTFH]

They won’t provide much (if anything) until you are actually earning money for them.
When do you start your new job?
Have you already spent the tens of thousands you had a few weeks ago?

[mb31]

I've got to attend weekly medical appointments at the moment and I've asked three Umbrella companies if they would process the expenses of attending them as a reasonable adjustment given that the additional costs arise due to disability.

According to HMRC, there are applicable exclusions in tax law e.g. for disability related travel expenses under Section 246 ITEPA 2003. The trouble is that the employer would normally pay and process the expenses as non taxable income.

But it begs the question, if I have to foot the cost of Employer's NI then why not other expenses? Is there any way an Umbrella can deduct expenses from my Gross to pay me back outside of taxable income?

So far the question has been pinged from the Umbrella expenses departments to compliance and HR. It hadn't occurred to me that Umbrellas have a HR department that would have to deal with these kind of requests.

I also suggested that they deduct my accomodation expenses from gross pre-tax income on the grounds of health and safety but they knocked that one back straight away.

I get the feeling I'm on a hiding to nothing but if you don't ask...it's all very well marketing an Umbrella as a good for contractor employment rights but the proof of the pudding is in the eating and so far they're not making the right noises.

What reasonable adjustments can an Umbrella provide other than payroll type stuff?