Public Sector and Umbrella

[Barrygbr]

I think in your case nothing changes.

Except that for your next contract you may find that your pay rate has been capped. For me this means a drop in the hourly rate of about £6ph (37.5 x 6 = £225 p/w or to put it another way £11,700 per annum - B'tards!!!)

[lucyclarityumbrella]

Hello Lucy- just checking you think this is still the case. A lot of info has come out since this reply!

No the same still stands, this part of the Intermediaries Legislation is not applicable to umbrella's. As the majority have said, you are paid via PAYE, so in essence, HMRC are getting the taxes they want with no worries

[lucyclarityumbrella]

Honestly. You really should have a better grasp of the mechanism you use to get paid and what's happening around you rather than having to ask on a public for every two months.

Now, now... having spoken with so many people in the industry, both contractors and agencies, you would not believe the different opinions that are being given! It is worrying how often people misinterpret what is being said!

[misterpingu]

Nothing has changed on the ir35 front, an umbrella user pays full PAYE so is not subject to ir35.

Thanks- yep totally get that. What worries me is some lunacy or any change upstream in the chain.

[northernladuk]

And.... relax....

I know but well... Mehhhh

[SlipTheJab]

Honestly. You really should have a better grasp of the mechanism you use to get paid and what's happening around you rather than having to ask on a public for every two months. For a start you should be asking your umbrella, they are your employer and you should be able to understand how the changes affect it. Absolutely nothing has happened that will.

I already gave you the link to the information so you know where to go look and I already told you who's best to ask. This is bordering on the ridiculous.

And.... relax....

[northernladuk]

Hello Lucy- just checking you think this is still the case. A lot of info has come out since this reply!

Honestly. You really should have a better grasp of the mechanism you use to get paid and what's happening around you rather than having to ask on a public for every two months. For a start you should be asking your umbrella, they are your employer and you should be able to understand how the changes affect it. Absolutely nothing has happened that will.

I already gave you the link to the information so you know where to go look and I already told you who's best to ask.

[eek]

Hello Lucy- just checking you think this is still the case. A lot of info has come out since this reply!

Nothing has changed on the ir35 front, an umbrella user pays full PAYE so is not subject to ir35.

[misterpingu]

Nothing will alter for you if you are with a brolly, the IR35 legislation is not considered

Hello Lucy- just checking you think this is still the case. A lot of info has come out since this reply!

[lucyclarityumbrella]

Should I be renewed , as I'm an umbrella and not PSC- I assume that my umbrella would continue to deduct my PAYE, rather than my agency or Capita? Or is it still too early to say?

Nothing will alter for you if you are with a brolly, the IR35 legislation is not considered

[misterpingu]

A couple of seconds reading the documentation comes up with this heading and comment.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...brella-company



But if you are with a decent Umbrella they are your employer so should know the answer to this by now.

Thanks- didn't realise it was already out there in detail on gov.co.uk.

[northernladuk]

A couple of seconds reading the documentation comes up with this heading and comment.

https://www.gov.uk/government/public...brella-company

Umbrella Company

50.Where an umbrella company employs the worker directly and not through an intermediary, the new off-payroll rules do not apply. Some umbrella companies do not employ the worker directly and so this should be checked. If this is not the case then the normal rules apply.

But if you are with a decent Umbrella they are your employer so should know the answer to this by now.

[eek]

Just looking ahead to March and the coming changes to the way Public Sector contracting will work.
Should I be renewed , as I'm an umbrella and not PSC- I assume that my umbrella would continue to deduct my PAYE, rather than my agency or Capita? Or is it still too early to say?

Thanks

I think in your case nothing changes.

[misterpingu]

Just looking ahead to March and the coming changes to the way Public Sector contracting will work.
Should I be renewed , as I'm an umbrella and not PSC- I assume that my umbrella would continue to deduct my PAYE, rather than my agency or Capita? Or is it still too early to say?

Thanks