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  • smalldog
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    if anyone comes asking about these schemes pretty easy to direct them to the S58 link on this site to illustrate the potential horrors of avoidance.

    I wouldnt personally entertain any of them, even ones underwritten by HMRC. Reason being we all know they have a time machine that could quite easily undo any prior governments legislative nods of compliance. If its a loophole they can in future shut it down retro so where is the upside?

    Im actually surprised these guys arent part of the HMRC clampdown on avoidance scheme promoters. Awful though it may sound Im almost tempted to phone HMRC and ask their views, one way to see either way if it works or they are breaking the rules.
    Last edited by smalldog; 21 November 2014, 19:59.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by DonkeyRhubarb View Post
    I can't believe any of these firms are going to make money selling schemes these days.

    They've missed the boat (literally). The heydays when you could fund a company yacht, from the fees, are long gone.

    Spirit of Montpelier flies the flag! - Lee takes a break
    You'd be surprised - we get loads of people coming to us asking about these schemes - we explain the risks and they still think that the promised 'take home' is worth the risk

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  • DonkeyRhubarb
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    I can't believe any of these firms are going to make money selling schemes these days.

    They've missed the boat (literally). The heydays when you could fund a company yacht, from the fees, are long gone.

    http://royalcorinthian.co.uk/gallery/2000305-361
    Last edited by DonkeyRhubarb; 21 November 2014, 12:20.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Indeed, and we "did" Tax Devil a while back as per my earlier post.

    Mr Hazzard has been a very busy boy judging by the number of directorships he holds. 22 currently, 11 incorporated this year and all but one within the last 18 months.
    According to DueDil - it's 62 Most of them in association with Andrew Gilfillan who is also a Director of Mann Made Corporate Services Ltd. There's also a new incorporation under Tangela Tax - wonder how long it will be before they're promising people 98% take home

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    Originally posted by DaveB View Post
    Now this is pure conjecture, but given that Hazzard is a fairly unusual name and the christian name fits as well....

    There is a Peter Hazard working for Mann Made Group who's website says:



    He's listed as Senior Company Administrator.

    His age according to CompanyCheck.co.uk is 27, and from the mug shot on the Mann Group team page that looks about right.

    Anyone want to give him a buzz?
    That tallys with the information that I got on him from DueDil. Would be interested to hear what he had to say

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  • DaveB
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    Now this is pure conjecture, but given that Hazzard is a fairly unusual name and the christian name fits as well....

    There is a Peter Hazard working for Mann Made Group who's website says:

    The Mann Made Group is a leading supplier of corporate and trust services to professional advisors and high net worth individuals and families.

    We offer you a team of highly motivated professional people who are experienced in operating within an entrepreneurial environment.

    We pride ourselves on our client focus and the ability to efficiently provide high-level tax and corporate advice and services to add value to your business.
    He's listed as Senior Company Administrator.

    His age according to CompanyCheck.co.uk is 27, and from the mug shot on the Mann Group team page that looks about right.

    Anyone want to give him a buzz?

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by LisaContractorUmbrella View Post
    The Director of this company is also behind Tax Devil and Onshore Tax Solutions Ltd - all 3 companies incorporated this year with no financials available
    Indeed, and we "did" Tax Devil a while back as per my earlier post.

    Mr Hazzard has been a very busy boy judging by the number of directorships he holds. 22 currently, 11 incorporated this year and all but one within the last 18 months.

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  • cojak
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    And there will be greedy cretins who will go for them because it's what they want to hear.

    I still laugh at them, but now I just shove them all in the HMRC Enquiries sub-forum and let them swim about.

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  • LisaContractorUmbrella
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    The Director of this company is also behind Tax Devil and Onshore Tax Solutions Ltd - all 3 companies incorporated this year with no financials available

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  • TheFaQQer
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    Hmmm - their "how it works" page doesn't actually tell you how it works.

    Funny that.

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  • cojak
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    Knock yerselves out ;D

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  • DaveB
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    Originally posted by cojak View Post
    And if I have to remove URLs again there will be consequences...
    What about grammatical errors?









    <runs away and hides>

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  • cojak
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    And if I have remove URLs again there will be consequences...

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  • DaveB
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    beansaver?

    Originally posted by smalldog View Post
    any thoughts:beansaver.co.uk/how-it-works/]How it works | BeansaverBeansaver[/url]

    apparently not tax avoidance in HMRC's eyes?
    Well lets see shall we?

    Originally posted by Beansaver Website
    Our ethos is one of trust and transparency, providing you with a combination of solid tax planning and total commitment to excellent client care.

    The tax planning solution we offer will truly deliver both now and in the future. We are interested in long term relationships with our clients and our tax planning experts will ensure you always benefit from the most beneficial solutions for your current circumstances.

    We would love to talk to you, and tell you more about why over the past 14 years, thousands of contractors have trusted this tax planning to maximise their income.
    Originally posted by companies house
    Name & Registered Office:
    BEANSAVER LIMITED
    UNIT 1 CITY POINT
    156 CHAPEL STREET
    SALFORD
    MANCHESTER
    UNITED KINGDOM
    M3 6BF
    Company No. 09066979

    Status: Active
    Date of Incorporation: 02/06/2014

    Country of Origin: United Kingdom
    Company Type: Private Limited Company
    Nature of Business (SIC):
    None Supplied
    Accounting Reference Date: 30/06
    Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
    Next Accounts Due: 02/03/2016
    Last Return Made Up To:
    Next Return Due: 30/06/2015
    Originally posted by Companycheck.co.uk
    Code:
    Current Directors and Secretaries
    Current Officer Name          Appointed       Current/Dissolved     Resigned   Total
    Mr Richard Peter Hazzard      02-06-2014            22                        9          31
    One of which just happens to be

    Originally posted by companycheck.co.uk
    Which I believe we have come across recently..... http://forums.contractoruk.com/umbre...tax-devil.html :roll eyes:


    Note to Mods/Admin No email contents in this one
    Last edited by DaveB; 20 November 2014, 14:15.

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  • smalldog
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    Originally posted by cojak View Post
    Says who???
    indeed, you would hope its qualified with a letter from HMRC themselves! or its a, here we go again!!!!

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