Reply to: Application Front End in C#

[d000hg]

Forms is easy, as a C++/MFC guy who'd picked up C# for server (non-GUI) projects, it seemed very easy to build my first Winforms app without any books or tutorials. Well done MS...

[Spacecadet]

Try here for some video tutorials.
"How Do I?" Videos for Visual C#

Start Visual Studio 2010
Goto File, New Project.
Select installed templates\Visual C#\Windows, now select Windows Forms Application.
That will give you a basic form application.
Open Form1 on the screen. Goto menu item View, select Toolbox and drag controls onto the form.

That looks spot on thanks!

[Gentile]

It wasn't that general - I was asking for a quick guide to building an application front end in C# - I should have maybe qualified that as a Windows application front end to help you differentiate that from a web front end. However, given that the first to replies guess what I was clumsily getting at you could have followed their lead or just asked.

It was a very general question, SC, you just don't realise it. Anyway, now that you've qualified your question down to a manageable slice of the wider subject you asked about, I hope this will help. Good luck.

[Spacecadet]

Unfortunately not. It's just too general a question to be meaningfully answered.

It wasn't that general - I was asking for a quick guide to building an application front end in C# - I should have maybe qualified that as a Windows application front end to help you differentiate that from a web front end. However, given that the first to replies guess what I was clumsily getting at you could have followed their lead or just asked.

Whilst I may have been slightly tongue-in-cheek earlier, I'm sure that any developer would tell SC the same: there's simply no such thing as a single guide that can "quickly walk a novice through how to build an application front end in C#?", any more than there's "a" single guide on how to build a facade for a building, even one that isn't fancy.

There are lots of single guides for most technologies aimed at novices. The problem is as a novice in this area I have no idea how to rate one against the other. I'm not asking for a guide which will make me an expert. I just needed something to cover the basics and start me off with some good habits rather than just cobbling some badly written code together (as I usually do).

There are around twenty different types of project that can be built using C# in conjunction with the .net framework. You'd need to know which type of solution you were trying to build before you could begin to provide any meaningful advice; web projects are as different to windows forms as skyscrapers are to bungalows, and whilst ASP.Net and ASP.Net MVC may sound the same, they're quite different.

I think it's already been whittled down to a windows form project.

[eek]

Unfortunately not. It's just too general a question to be meaningfully answered.

Whilst I may have been slightly tongue-in-cheek earlier, I'm sure that any developer would tell SC the same: there's simply no such thing as a single guide that can "quickly walk a novice through how to build an application front end in C#?", any more than there's "a" single guide on how to build a facade for a building, even one that isn't fancy.

There are around twenty different types of project that can be built using C# in conjunction with the .net framework. You'd need to know which type of solution you were trying to build before you could begin to provide any meaningful advice; web projects are as different to windows forms as skyscrapers are to bungalows, and whilst ASP.Net and ASP.Net MVC may sound the same, they're quite different.

+1. When I saw the question last night it looked far too much like how long is a piece of string to be worth answering. Different project types use very different technogy stacks even within .net and thats before you look at data access options and security issues relating to user types.

[Gentile]

does that mean you aren't going to suggest any site for spaceboy ?

Unfortunately not. It's just too general a question to be meaningfully answered.

Whilst I may have been slightly tongue-in-cheek earlier, I'm sure that any developer would tell SC the same: there's simply no such thing as a single guide that can "quickly walk a novice through how to build an application front end in C#?", any more than there's "a" single guide on how to build a facade for a building, even one that isn't fancy.

There are around twenty different types of project that can be built using C# in conjunction with the .net framework. You'd need to know which type of solution you were trying to build before you could begin to provide any meaningful advice; web projects are as different to windows forms as skyscrapers are to bungalows, and whilst ASP.Net and ASP.Net MVC may sound the same, they're quite different.

[TestMangler]

does that mean you aren't going to suggest any site for spaceboy ?

Evidently not, and it appears to be because of my testing methodology

[FiveTimes]

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does that mean you aren't going to suggest any site for spaceboy ?

[TestMangler]

Only you could start with "I'll leave it there" and still manage to follow it up with more than sixty words

[FiveTimes]

I can only help if you send me some tests first.

Shouldn't take you more than a couple of hours. I don't need anything fancy, and anyway it's just typing, isn't it?

Just, you know, a 'basic' set of some 'standard' tests. You do use the same ones for every project no matter what the type of project or technologies being used, don't you? Web/Windows/Checking an OLAP Cube has been built correctly, they're all the same.

If you can even send me a basic walkthrough of How To test An Application, that's all I need really. I'm not sure why they pay people hundreds of pounds a day to do this. It doesn't sound that hard.

I think TM was suggesting that you might have some helpful handy links that the OP asked for

[Gentile]

FFS, you're a bit bloody touchy. Should I suggest he waits a week before he asks you ?

He wanted to know something about C# Application development, I seem to remember you at some point mentioning that you might know something about it, so suggested that he contact you. WTF you having a go at me for ?

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And I seem to remember you know something about testing, which was why I asked you for some tests. I even said I didn't need anything fancy and everything. I can't help you any more than that.

What's the matter, was what I asked too general a question to be meaningfully answered, or something?

[TestMangler]

I can only help if you send me some tests first.

Shouldn't take you more than a couple of hours. I don't need anything fancy, and anyway it's just typing, isn't it?

Just, you know, a 'basic' set of some 'standard' tests. You do use the same ones for every project no matter what the type of project or technologies being used, don't you? Web/Windows/Checking an OLAP Cube has been built correctly, they're all the same.

If you can even send me a basic walkthrough of How To test An Application, that's all I need really. I'm not sure why they pay people hundreds of pounds a day to do this. It doesn't sound that hard.

FFS, you're a bit bloody touchy. Should I suggest he waits a week before he asks you ?

He wanted to know something about C# Application development, I seem to remember you at some point mentioning that you might know something about it, so suggested that he contact you. WTF you having a go at me for ?

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[Gentile]

Drop Gentile a PM....

I can only help if you send me some tests first.

Shouldn't take you more than a couple of hours. I don't need anything fancy, and anyway it's just typing, isn't it?

Just, you know, a 'basic' set of some 'standard' tests. You do use the same ones for every project no matter what the type of project or technologies being used, don't you? Web/Windows/Checking an OLAP Cube has been built correctly, they're all the same.

If you can even send me a basic walkthrough of How To test An Application, that's all I need really. I'm not sure why they pay people hundreds of pounds a day to do this. It doesn't sound that hard.

[TestMangler]

Does anyone have any handy links for a site which can quickly walk a novice through how to build an application front end in C#?

Don't need anything fancy!

TIA

Drop Gentile a PM....

[insur]

Does anyone have any handy links for a site which can quickly walk a novice through how to build an application front end in C#?

Don't need anything fancy!

TIA

Try here for some video tutorials.
"How Do I?" Videos for Visual C#

Start Visual Studio 2010
Goto File, New Project.
Select installed templates\Visual C#\Windows, now select Windows Forms Application.
That will give you a basic form application.
Open Form1 on the screen. Goto menu item View, select Toolbox and drag controls onto the form.