Reply to: Client Co has shown their colours...

[ladymuck]

Manager at ClientCo is now talking to their in-house MSP / recruiter thingummy. It's great management are so keen to see what they can do but it's still in the laps of legal/HR at the end of the day.

Guidant - anyone dealt with them? They offer a number of recruitment solutions to ClientCo, some trad agency, some payroll so will see what comes of that.

I will be more comfortable moving away from the consultancy as the director keeps coming up with some frankly nuts work arounds that would make some of the nonsense posted here look sane.

[northernladuk]

Heaven forbid no. I am a contractor and I am a member of IPSE.

Well at least one of those is correct so you are improving.

[simes]

i reckon someone's done a deal with QDOS.
would explain posting this on loads of threads.

Heaven forbid no. I am a contractor and I am a member of IPSE.

If IPSE were offering clients what Qdos is appearing to offer, then I would be mentioning them too. The more companies offering this potential solution and getting their word out, the sooner clients have what we as contractors have had for the last 20 years. Peace of mind.

But in absence of clients, by their own knowledge or others' advice, having the wherewithal to even consider allowing the use of PSCs going forward, if they can be introduced to a sort of assurance that nothing will hit their bottom line, then there is an open door to consider once things have settled somewhat.

As for EY, I saw the results of their 'advice' to Sky. And they managed to totally cock up in no uncertain terms Mutuality of Obligation. Hence why now Sky is also banning the use of PSCs.

Again, apologies if anyone thinks I am a Qdos minion.

[ladymuck]

they're looking at ships?
at an airport?

Yep. Airships

[BR14]

The client has paid lots of money to EY for their advice. They have yet to decide if they will accept LtdCo contractors in their supply chain and therefore have not yet started looking at issuing SDSs. We will find out next month what their approach will be.

Contract negotiations with the consultancy are basically to decide the way forward once ClientCo have stopped naval gazing.

they're looking at ships?
at an airport?

[ladymuck]

The client has paid lots of money to EY for their advice. They have yet to decide if they will accept LtdCo contractors in their supply chain and therefore have not yet started looking at issuing SDSs. We will find out next month what their approach will be.

Contract negotiations with the consultancy are basically to decide the way forward once ClientCo have stopped naval gazing.

[simes]

LM's eventual end client doesn't want any PSCs anywhere near their premises.. Which means QDOS doesn't solve anything here.

Ah, is that right? Ok.

But, with an eye towards the longer term future and, IF LadyM has an ongoing audience whose day she can continue to brighten up, then dropping in this nugget may, in time, give them something to consider for if, as and when Outside contracts just Have to be made available.

No harm in mentioning it now, if in fact the client is not already aware.

Just a thought.

[BR14]

i reckon someone's done a deal with QDOS.
would explain posting this on loads of threads.

[eek]

That you are being afforded the chance to participate in discussions is superb.

Are you able to introduce the client to Qdos who are taking calls from clients for insurance purposes? To indemnify the client as opposed to contractor?

LM's eventual end client doesn't want any PSCs anywhere near their premises.. Which means QDOS doesn't solve anything here.

[simes]

That you are being afforded the chance to participate in discussions is superb.

Are you able to introduce the client to Qdos who are taking calls from clients for insurance purposes? To indemnify the client as opposed to contractor?

[ladymuck]

Inconclusive contract discussions had this morning.

Said in no uncertain terms that going perm with the consultancy to do the same job for less than half the money was not going to happen.

I said I would consider a 1 year FTC at 30% above my current rate to cover my PAYE due that the consultancy could deduct at source. They are now saying that would potentially be an uplift too far for ClientCo. I said that's the new cost of doing business.

Will wait and see what happens...

[ladymuck]

Lucky you didn't confuse it with LMs other favourite which is FOAD.

I only use that for the very special people...

[BR14]

[northernladuk]

Er, thanks for making me look up FTAOD.

Lucky you didn't confuse it with LMs other favourite which is FOAD.

[ladymuck]

Er, thanks for making me look up FTAOD.

It's safer than most of the acronyms used around these parts.