Reply to: Resource solution

[CanPayButWouldRatherNot]

For those at DB thru resource solutions

some folks might have missed the thread here


https://www.contractoruk.com/forums/...ml#post2736540

yours worriedly re-reading a re-issued contract

[LondonManc]

No, and this is what really p155es me off. Talk about abusing a dominant position. So, the public sector, unable to find contractors willing to work inside IR35, magically lift the rates. I've seen contract rates usually around £ 400-450 suddenly advertised at £ 650. Who's paying for this? The taxpayer. Isn't that anti-competitive for other companies who can't pick the taxpayers pockets? Where does that leave small/medium companies? Unable to afford the contractors they need because the pubic (yes correct spelling) sector has just shafted them on rates. They came after Microsoft in the 90's and 00's for abusing their dominant market position. How come nobody is attacking the Revenue for the same?

Not sure what you're on about but he said that his role was tested and deemed outside.

[cojak]

Sorry, not sure what thread to post in, but I'm not confident about my agency.

They are talking about meeting with the client/legal, me probably being outside IR35 and them sending me an amended contract by the end of the month if the client confirms this.

Surely amendments won't count at this point as I signed the original contract.

If the amendment is not accepted, my guess is that they’ll terminate your contract and remind you not to hit yer arse on the door on the way out.

Sorry, not sure what thread to post in, but I'm not confident about my agency.

They are talking about meeting with the client/legal, me probably being outside IR35 and them sending me an amended contract by the end of the month if the client confirms this.

Surely amendments won't count at this point as I signed the original contract.

[krytonsheep]

It's unfair that they want to pay me half my rate for the same work I'm doing now. It's unfair not being even assessed. It's unfair being bullied into a contract with the usual reminder "hey the market is dead please accept".

Your client is a business, it uses suppliers to provide goods and services. The business decides what services it needs and what price it's willing to pay for them. The nature of business is always to pay the least amount possible to suppliers. The only exceptions to this would be if you are a 'fair trade' farmer from Kenya ( as an example).
As a supplier of services, it's your responsibility to find the highest paying client, fairness never comes in to it.

[oliverson]

Public sector seem to be coping with it from what I've heard. Just been chatting with a contractor who was in an outside IR35 role before his current gig. PRivate sector should be able to fix itself quicker than public you'd hope.

No, and this is what really p155es me off. Talk about abusing a dominant position. So, the public sector, unable to find contractors willing to work inside IR35, magically lift the rates. I've seen contract rates usually around £ 400-450 suddenly advertised at £ 650. Who's paying for this? The taxpayer. Isn't that anti-competitive for other companies who can't pick the taxpayers pockets? Where does that leave small/medium companies? Unable to afford the contractors they need because the pubic (yes correct spelling) sector has just shafted them on rates. They came after Microsoft in the 90's and 00's for abusing their dominant market position. How come nobody is attacking the Revenue for the same?

[zonkkk]

The world changes and I'll adapt or leave if needed.

Careful, I heard the other side is full of experienced contractors. Your chances of finding a contract will be close to zero.

[ciaozio]

Remember, if they have an Adam’s Apple it’s a bloke


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LOL! It's with my Gf

What's unfair? The world changes and you have to identify a new place in it.

It's unfair that they want to pay me half my rate for the same work I'm doing now. It's unfair not being even assessed. It's unfair being bullied into a contract with the usual reminder "hey the market is dead please accept".

The world changes and I'll adapt or leave if needed. But don't tell me there's nothing unfair about this.

[LondonManc]

Public sector seem to be coping with it from what I've heard. Just been chatting with a contractor who was in an outside IR35 role before his current gig. PRivate sector should be able to fix itself quicker than public you'd hope.

[eek]

I'm fortunate enough to have built a war-chest large enough to able to reject their offer. Which is why I'm rejecting and I'll try to find something outside IR35 and work on personal projects for the next few months. Plus a much needed trip to Asia.

I find the whole thing incredibly unfair.

What's unfair? The world changes and you have to identify a new place in it.

That's not unfair it's what happens daily.

[Anubis]

Remember, if they have an Adam’s Apple it’s a bloke

[GhostofTarbera]

Plus a much needed trip to Asia.

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[ciaozio]

Depends on your location surely? You're on more with a bad rate than no rate.

I'm fortunate enough to have built a war-chest large enough to able to reject their offer. Which is why I'm rejecting and I'll try to find something outside IR35 and work on personal projects for the next few months. Plus a much needed trip to Asia.

I find the whole thing incredibly unfair.

[cojak]

Similar thing happened to me in October. Wouldn't give me penny more on my daily rate for a renewal, so screw them. Rate was way too low at £450 per day anyway.

After 3 months on the bench and almost nothing in the pipeline, I'd take any contract at £300

The rate shouldn’t be the issue. Getting out of a contract that moves you from outside to inside should be the issue.

[hairymouse]

It's January 2nd - and most job sites have timed out all adverts over Christmas. I would be waiting until January 13th before starting to give up hope - let business get started up again.

You are right, and thanks for the words of encouragement. Actually, today wasn't too bad, got a few calls.