Can we start a list of PS orgs and their status?

[RonBW]

To the end that if you see an advert that is for a gig 100 miles away but you know is an option 1 on that list, you wouldn't bother.

From here on, every PS role should be clearly advertised as either inside or outside IR35 based on the role.

Any time there is an advert looking for a contractor in the public sector that doesn't specify that, people should ask the question. The PSB then must reply within 31 days. After April 6th, someone really should go through the Digital Marketplace and ask every advert there whether the role is inside or outside - any answers which do not give an assessment (and I've seen some already which say things along the lines of "it's up to the PSC to determine that" should be reported to the Cabinet Office as not following the guidelines.

[cojak]

1, Carte Blanche IN decision no matter what
2, Flexible approach accepting contract and WP reviews
3, Reliant on the EES Tool?
4, A. N. Other

If you want to run and maintain it go right ahead. A trawl through the threads should get you started.

Things are changing every day though and a PSB might be in one category one day and in a different one the next, so you'll have to keep on top of it.

[gables]

My rule list is very flexible.. almost to the point that my number one rule always seems to be exactly the one the topic is about... It's very clever you know

Either that or I am very indecisive when making lists of rules. My top 10 list goes from 1 to 1.

You are Gibbs from NCIS aren't you

[LondonManc]

My rule list is very flexible.. almost to the point that my number one rule always seems to be exactly the one the topic is about... It's very clever you know

Either that or I am very indecisive when making lists of rules. My top 10 list goes from 1 to 1.

I'd have thought your rules would have been at least four in number:
1 Make sure that they've asked their accountant.
2 Teach n00bs to look right
3 Post a disguised grumble about the state of CUK forum search as often as possible
4 Stay out of bus lanes

[northernladuk]

That's your number one rule? How odd. It's very precise.

My rule list is very flexible.. almost to the point that my number one rule always seems to be exactly the one the topic is about... It's very clever you know

Either that or I am very indecisive when making lists of rules. My top 10 list goes from 1 to 1.

[LondonManc]

NLUK rule to self number one. Don't make decisions on my contracting career based on the feedback from a load of numpties (excluding a few) on an online forum. Particularly when we are talking PS contractors that are still in their gigs 2 weeks before Armageddon.

Picking up the phone and chat to the agent when I'm pretty versed in the situation to see if it can be pulled round or take the advice from a thread started by a poster of such pedigree and pass up the chance for work. Let me think about that for a moment....

Things are going to change, the information will be the view of one contractor in a massive organisation, we don't know if the poster is talking garbage or not. I just think it's a dangerous idea. Andy H has already alluded to the fact that MoD appears to have a blanket ban but it's not as blanket as it appears.

That's your number one rule? How odd. It's very precise.

[northernladuk]

To the end that if you see an advert that is for a gig 100 miles away but you know is an option 1 on that list, you wouldn't bother.

NLUK rule to self number one. Don't make decisions on my contracting career based on the feedback from a load of numpties (excluding a few) on an online forum. Particularly when we are talking PS contractors that are still in their gigs 2 weeks before Armageddon.

Picking up the phone and chat to the agent when I'm pretty versed in the situation to see if it can be pulled round or take the advice from a thread started by a poster of such pedigree and pass up the chance for work. Let me think about that for a moment....

Things are going to change, the information will be the view of one contractor in a massive organisation, we don't know if the poster is talking garbage or not. I just think it's a dangerous idea. Andy H has already alluded to the fact that MoD appears to have a blanket ban but it's not as blanket as it appears.

[LondonManc]

To what end?

To the end that if you see an advert that is for a gig 100 miles away but you know is an option 1 on that list, you wouldn't bother.

[Patrick@Intouch]

I'm fairly sure that whatever course any particular PSB takes now may well change when they realise the extent of sticky stuff clogging up the fan blades!!

[DKB]

The Govt organisation I'm at relies on contractors as they can't recruit and they need to buy skills in.

They've spoken with us and said they'll use the ESS tool as guidance. Every last one of us is outside and that's the way it's going to remain after April 06th. We've all used the tool and the client has used it to asses all of us, job jobbed!

The management team there are very pragmatic and fully accept that nothing has changed other that who decides on the contractors employment status so followed the guidance.

[BigRed]

The question was what PS Orgs were doing. From the contractors point of view, to receive the same net money after the changes, this only applies to new contracts of course and I'm sure some will up the rates but not fully compensate for the changes.

[northernladuk]

To what end?

[BigRed]

5, Upped the rates to cover the losses

[Semtex]

1, Carte Blanche IN decision no matter what
2, Flexible approach accepting contract and WP reviews
3, Reliant on the EES Tool?
4, A. N. Other