Reply to: TFL communication re IR35

[LondonManc]

These emails state that you are expected to make your preferences know to 'your Manager' - a clear inside IR35 indicator.

Could mean Hiring Manager.

[Yorkie62]

Indeed. They can call them what they want. It's what you call them that counts

'Plebs' is a title most Government officials seems to understand

Project Leading, Envisineering, Benchmarking Servent

[northernladuk]

Manager / project leader its a naming game...

Indeed. They can call them what they want. It's what you call them that counts

[eek]

These emails state that you are expected to make your preferences know to 'your Manager' - a clear inside IR35 indicator.

Manager / project leader its a naming game...

[MoroccanMole]

....discuss with your manager.....

These emails state that you are expected to make your preferences know to 'your Manager' - a clear inside IR35 indicator.

[eek]

or all the PS bodies can see their projects and work going tits up that they have escalated to HMRC that this is going to be un workable?

[Semtex]

or all the PS bodies can see their projects and work going tits up that they have escalated to HMRC that this is going to be un workable?

[LondonManc]

I would love to know what this 'advice' is... considering there has been no guidance given to PS bodies thus far. My take is there has been no conversation prior and since then with HMRC and they are trying to cover their tracks.. idiots.

I agree with LondonManc that the permies would be scared that they have to do some work for a change - that place is proper old school public sector with benefits that are eye-watering... considering the output

HMRC potentially keeping them waiting for the hook of the retro-grab. It's another 'kin trap!

[difficulttimes]

Idiots..

Since then, we have taken further advice from HMRC and we have reconsidered our approach.

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I would love to know what this 'advice' is... considering there has been no guidance given to PS bodies thus far. My take is there has been no conversation prior and since then with HMRC and they are trying to cover their tracks.. idiots.

I agree with LondonManc that the permies would be scared that they have to do some work for a change - that place is proper old school public sector with benefits that are eye-watering... considering the output

[LondonManc]

Lol. Classic. This hard nosed approach is going to be met with the grim realisation that no-body permie knows anything and it's all run by contractors who are willing to lump it.

The permies know stuff. They're now panicking that they'll actually have to do stuff. Don't worry about that!

[eek]

But I do love that fact that their bolshie 'take or leave it' message must have been met with an equally robust

And it does seem that all they want to do is delay the inevitable another 5 weeks. Gives TfL a bit of time to find replacements.

I don't really wonder if fear of retrospective investigations of contracts has / is being discussed there - I think this is more two finger salutes. Especially when people were given Christmas to think it over and probably have resigned themselves to leaving and finding new roles...

[MarillionFan]

But I do love that fact that their bolshie 'take or leave it' message must have been met with an equally robust

Lol. Classic. This hard nosed approach is going to be met with the grim realisation that no-body permie knows anything and it's all run by contractors who are willing to lump it.

[cojak]

But I do love that fact that their bolshie 'take or leave it' message must have been met with an equally robust

[LondonManc]

But don't forget this does Nothing for the retrospective tax threat.

As you were on that bit methinks...

Agreed but it's a clear case of tulip hitting fan.

[cojak]

But don't forget this does Nothing for the retrospective tax threat.

As you were on that bit methinks...